Beretta M92 vs. Colt 1911 A1

[moedameyer]

Hello,

I am planning on buying a co2 pistol and i narrowed it down to these two. Has anybody here had experience with either of these? I am wondering witch one is better quallity and beter for the price. Right now i'm leaning towards the Colt 1911 but it's too close to call :)

I also looked on ReviewCentre and the average ratings for the Colt and Beretta were 8.1 and 8.0 so it looks like either way it;s gonna be a win-win situation.

Any help is appreciated,
Thanks

[Slacker24seven]

The beretta is meant to be the best of the Umarex autos. Take the stuff on reviewcentre with a pinch of salt because half the time its kids who have never held a gun before and give it 10 out of 10 for being really cool even though the triggers crap and the bluing wears off instantly :rolleyes:

This is what I wrote in another thread:

1. Its bloody heavy. Feels good like a 'proper' gun and is actually made out of metal, unlike airsoft guns where all but the highest quality models are predominantly plastic with metal wieghts inside.

2. The trigger is not too bad. I was pleasantly surprised with the single action trigger, however the pull in DA is ridiculously long.

3. Theres a manualy decocking lever/safety. It works.

4. The 'bluing' is **** poor. Wipe it with an oily rag to prevent fingerprints leaving a lasting mark.

5. Its loud and its fun, co2 is cheap and guns can be ridiculously cheap secondhand on here.

6. Its not too accurate so dont expect too much from it. Perfect for tin can destruction though.

7. Its not very powerful and like all CO2 guns power will fluctuate depending upon how cold a day it is and how fast you shoot it, so your POI will drop.

Buy one you'll love it;) :D

HTH

[Parabuteo]

I prezume you are talking about umarex

I have a 92 in the nickel form.

I wanted black, but there was a nickel one available, and I had seen the wear on the black ones. The nickel seems harder wearing.

The colt is reputed to have a better trigger (I find with the 92 that just as the trigger is about to trip, it feels like your finger is about to slide off fo the end:(

That said, it is an accurate little gun, and sits well in yer mitts.

What I would say is be carefull of dust and grit. The 92 (and I presume the colt) dont like it.

I was shooting in a wind recently and picked up enough grit to stop the gun totally.

Chucking yer gun in grit is not ideal, but sometimes it happens.

That said, I found the 92 very easy to strip down (as long as you are carefull) and gave it a clean and re lube (very clever and well made internals).

The gun was then faultless.

I also found that although the 92 is said to be zeroe'd at 10m, mine was over (about 1.5" high...in bloody cold weather). You can shoot some nice groups with these. IMHO, it is less down to the gun and more down to practice, although there are limits.

I have an adjustable sight on order for the 92 now. I wanted to resist untill I found out that they are also available for the real thing, so it aint cheating. I just want to try and match the POA accross my 3 pistols. Not necessary, but a good idea if you want to do it.

I would like a more hookey end to the trigger (the travel is not like this on the real thing. I have shot a military one in Germany with the yanks, although on the real thing, you dont have to cycle a magazine, just release a trigger, so much less movement is required), but if I am honest, it can be got round by changing technique slightly for each trigger.

I tried Dynamic PPP1s, but they caused stoppages by either being tight in the mag or moving. I have found Bisley practice to not only group better, but to be fault free (particularly if loaded by the loading gismo).

Personally, I think the 92 looks better, but I would enjoy owning both (and may well do so), whichever you pick, enjoy.


Ever considered a Baikal Mak....you should. Not as accurate as the 92, but loads of fun, and it can produce 1-1.5" groups at 10m with lead balls;)

And thats with blind pugh here shooting the poor little mite:o

(PS. Lay off the review centre. As slacker247 says, mostly kids or nurds, better off on here, where people vote with their feet, handbags, or wallets. If its crap, word gets round)

Chris B.

[Carter]

Ever considered a Baikal Mak....you should. Not as accurate as the 92, but loads of fun, and it can produce 1-1.5" groups at 10m with lead balls;)


What he said.....the Makarov is a terrific co2 pistol, much better built than the Umarex clones & you can get them for around the £60 quid mark, top value.

If you`re set on an Umarex, the Beretta 92 or the Walther CP88 are both good.

[Si-monster]

If you`re set on an Umarex, the Beretta 92 or the Walther CP88 are both good.

Wot he said... the CP88 is crackin to handle and dead easy to strip. the 92F does feel pretty nice too which upset me some as i'm an avid 1911 fan :D but hey, you can't argue with hands on experince so if you have a "Wonderland" model and hobby store near you they should stock all three (and more) so you can try out the "feel" for yourself. there really isn't much else between the umarex replicas as far as accuracy and power are concerned - both average to good - so the aesthetics and handling should be your only real consideration.

that said, have you considered a revolver? if you haven't tried one i'd seriously recommend it. the S&W models are beautiful in build and handling and are pretty damn accurate (especially with the 8" barrel - meaty:cool: ) but they do carry a bit of a price. the crosman 357 is really good for it's price too but it's quite a bit chunkier than the Smith. the shooters kit has the 4" and the 8" barrels, 4 mags and a red dot sight with blocks and it's cased... all for about a 80 notes from J S Ramsbottom! i had one and now really regret selling it (might have to get another one soon) coz they really are great fun and well accurate. on top of that, the revolvers tend to be a little more powerful making for more "positive" feeling shots... if that makes sense?:o

hope that lot helps mate :D

[lesyeomans@ntlw]

Hello,

I am planning on buying a co2 pistol and i narrowed it down to these two. Has anybody here had experience with either of these? I am wondering witch one is better quallity and beter for the price. Right now i'm leaning towards the Colt 1911 but it's too close to call :)

I also looked on ReviewCentre and the average ratings for the Colt and Beretta were 8.1 and 8.0 so it looks like either way it;s gonna be a win-win situation.

Any help is appreciated,
Thanksi owne both of thees guns and findthe beretter has more pwer both have high build quality but ifind a wather cp88 cmp is better all round bob yoyo

[zanes]

.... ifind a wather cp88 cmp is better all round bob yoyo

Bit muzzle heavy though. Best to have a feel and handle at a local store (if needs be go in for a tin of pellets and some targets or something and ask to have a look/handle!!)

[garry]

I own all the Umarex range and would say the 1911 is the best all rounder. The ergonomics of the 92f don't suit everyone. The 586 revolvers are pretty accurate and well made. The cp88 handles well and is a nice gun, but I feel the 1911 is the best compromise of all of them. The s/a trigger pull is very light and predictable, it's accurate, handles well and the d/a pull is quite light.

[zanes]

Yeah the DA pull on the cp88 is a bit heavy. Might have a gander and see if oil will help, as i'm out of pellets (1,000 in about 1 1/2-2 weeks!!)

[garry]

Yeah the DA pull on the cp88 is a bit heavy. Might have a gander and see if oil will help, as i'm out of pellets (1,000 in about 1 1/2-2 weeks!!)

Oil won't really help I'm afraid, it's the main hammer spring which dictates the weight of the trigger pull. Polishing the sear in the correct place and way, can make the trigger smoother and less gritty though...;)

[zanes]

Ahh! damn! thanks. Trigger on mine is quite smooth anyway, so i'll leave it. THought most of the weight came from revolving cylinder and linkages/

[garry]

Ahh! damn! thanks. Trigger on mine is quite smooth anyway, so i'll leave it. THought most of the weight came from revolving cylinder and linkages/

....No probs...;)

[Liam]

since you're talking CO2 I haven't shot any, 9mm on the other hand mmmmmm (http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c136/Liamdoherty/Image003.jpg)

[zanes]

since you're talking CO2 I haven't shot any, 9mm on the other hand mmmmmm (http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c136/Liamdoherty/Image003.jpg)

Yep, great fun. Shot Glock 17 in florida.

[zanes]

CP99 'sport' you mean?

[zanes]

Its the one you can buy in bright colours... (yellow like mine) ornage and green and I think Camo as well......

Sorry if I got the number wrong.... Oh and another tip use Dynamic PPP1 pellets as they will put tidy little groups together at 10yds.

bob.
no just me being pedantic-it is the CP99. Ta for the pellet tip tho!!