40g 'v'45g Hornet

[phessy007]

hi all

i been re-loading 45g s/p for years in the trusty hornet 22, (all fit the mag)& i thought i give the lighter 40g blitzking 'balistic tip' a go (as this was all available) so on a +1g load they fire superb, impressed......as long as there single loaded!! They don't fit the mag, due to the point on the tip!

the dilemma is !!

& they are to the stated aol +/_ 0.010 .(1.75")

do i...
1- skim the heads off , on a grinder ,to fit the mag
2-press the heads in further to clear the mag(the taper goes under the brass 'just')
3-adjust the mag????

here one for the experienced..thank you ;)

[richness]

I have the same issue, with the same bullets. I dremel the tips off symetrically by pushing them into the small concave hole on a dremel grinding stone
Have just ordered some 50s actually, as lilgun will shoot them, on paper at least, with the same trajectory (as it is more efficient with heavier bullets) as the 40s (and infinitely better than the 35s) so i'm interested to see if they'll shoot in my hornet (52gr Amaxes don't so i'm pushing my luck)

ATB Richard :)

[richness]

i certainly wouldn't push them in farther into the brass as my gun, at least, likes them long

[stalker1]

have a read of this chaps

This is where the Hornet comes into its own: the velocity figures from the test gun showed the factory-loaded ammo ambling along, whereas a good handload really got the Hornet stinging. Because of its slow twist (the rifling is only 1:16) it is unable to stabilise heavier bullets well, such as the 55 or 60 grain. Stick to the 35, 40 and 45 grain bullets, as these give the best compromise between velocity and energy, combined with flattest trajectories.

At 100 yards zero, you are only 0.35in high at 50 yards, very useable at my ranges yet -5.8in low at 200 yards with Berger 45 grain bullets travelling at 2,600fps or so.
Down the reload road
The Hornady 35-grain V-Max bullets, reloaded or used as factory-loaded Varmint Extreme ammunition, offer the highest velocity and flattest trajectory for short range, as well as dependable and highly frangible results, where a ricochet would be undesirable.

The only drawback is the lighter, stubbier bullet has a lower ballistic coefficient and is affected by the wind at longer range. The 35-grain Hornady V-Max can be sent flying at 3,057fps, producing 726ft/lb energy with a paltry powder charge of 11 grains VIT N110 and spectacular downrange performance.

Typical reloads for the heavier bullets are H110 at 11 grains with 40 grain bullets to give 2,845fps, while the same powder at 10 grains for 45-grainers gives 2,623fps. H4227 is another good powder: at 10.5 grains for 40 grain bullets, it gives 2,653fps and 2,494fps with 10 grains for 45 grain bullets.

[phessy007]

after assesing the situation........oh wow!

the press dont adjust to acccomodate the heads to size in further, (not a good idea anyhow)
skimming the tips ?? well...a possibility
imo-the mag has been adjusted , the rounds fitted/fired...................superb !!

than you all that commented. ;)

[hungryrob]

1- skim the heads off , on a grinder ,to fit the mag
2-press the heads in further to clear the mag(the taper goes under the brass 'just')
3-adjust the mag????


The stated OAL is fine but you should be using a bullet comparator to find the length to the Ogive and using that as a measure; it is a better point to measure from as it's more consistent that the tip. You'll probably find that the bullet will still be too long for the magazine anyway as ballistic tipped bullets generally protrude well out. The same amount of bullet (to the Ogive) should protrude from a case regardless of the length it is inside.

Be careful about pressing the bullets in further... You will change the pressure and need to re-establish your load data for the new length. Lighter bullets generally work well with more powder as they're shorter however so you shouldn't get any danger unless you have already increased the powder charge from the 45 grain load.

I'd say there's no point in cutting off the tip; kind of defeats the purpose of the Tip and will almost certainly have an impact on the accuracy.

My old BSA Hunter (hornet) has a box mag; I just cut it out at the front a little and it takes whatever length I put in it now.

Robbie

[richness]

You don't cut off the tip Robbie mate, you dremel it concentrically down so it looks like a SP would. I tried it thinking i'd struggle with accuracy but it was absolutely fine - i mean they're good for less than an inch at !70y
Obviously, extending the mag length somehow is the ideal solution, though
ATB Richard

[markbivvy]

press the heads in further to clear the mag(the taper goes under the brass 'just')
did you use to be a Barber.
harrogate now.

[DaveK]

press the heads in further to clear the mag(the taper goes under the brass 'just')
did you use to be a Barber.
harrogate now.


Who's Barbara :pMark?

[markbivvy]

you know.

[phessy007]

press the heads in further to clear the mag(the taper goes under the brass 'just')
did you use to be a Barber.
harrogate now.

??????? sure there s a hidden code or intellegence in there somewhere..:D any experience bivvy!!

[markbivvy]

wonder how long you will last with this name, before the mods suss you.

[phessy007]

wonder how long you will last with this name, before the mods suss you.


??? alway been a biker mate, nothing uses/ rides on a hairdryer , ever effected me !! ;)

thanks for the re-loading tip ??

[bobb d]

I have shot my Hornet without a mag for years using 40 GR V max, you can soon get another in. If you miss with the first one the target dont usually hang around to let you empty a mag into it. Stick with single shot and enjoy the better accuracy.
ATB Bob