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Barrie_G
19-05-2004, 02:40 PM
There are a few10x42 Sniper Scopes about now Nikko Sterling, and Deben to name just two, all at a similar price as I am looking to buy a new scope in the next few weeks I was just wondering if any of these are of better quality than the others or are they all pretty much the same?

Or will I be better off with a 3-9x40 scope for general use?

Davestate
19-05-2004, 02:44 PM
Barrie, for general 'all round use' I'd get something with a little higher mag, like 4-16. The SS's about are all in the same ball park, great for HFT, but not suited for paper punching.

Rustam Bana
19-05-2004, 02:47 PM
According to Sid, the Tasco variant has the best optics of the lot.

Rustam

Geordie
19-05-2004, 03:41 PM
I use the EB version with sidewheel PA - it's the dog's danglies! :D

BoNeS
19-05-2004, 03:43 PM
i have to disagree with sid the tascos are not consistently good optics i use an eb

the eb ones all seem to be excellent and are a little easier to deal with if anything goes wrong

nurek
19-05-2004, 03:45 PM
Barrie,

It depends what you want to use this scope for, it is perfect for HFT and I also use it for general hunting.

From my experience the Edgar Brothers Sniper 10x42 has the finest reticle, the Nikko has quite thick 'posts' and so does the Tasco. I have not seen the Deben DMP/Mil-Pro. I like the rear PA on the Nikko and the Tasco SS though.

Optically they are all very similar and very clear as they are probably all made in one factory in Japan (Hakko? Asia Optical?). These scopes are not too good in low light though, althoug a lot better than some cheap chinese stuff... and the scope is quite heavy...

I will second Dave's opinion, if I was after one for general application I would look at the Deben DMP (now Hawke Mil Pro) 4-16x56 or something along these lines, made to the same spec as the snipers but with variable magnification... Nice scopes

Barrie_G
19-05-2004, 04:05 PM
Its to go on my MFR so I'm trying to find a good scope to replace the WTC 3.5-10x40 that is on there now, but I'm looking for something with a 40mm objective (or thereabouts) so that I don't need to get the risers for the mounts (I just dont like the look of them and I like a low mounted scope) otherwise I would have put my 3-9x50 VXII on it.

It will be used mainly for informal target shooting and the odd hunting trip.

Geordie
19-05-2004, 04:07 PM
Do MFRs have fixed mounts? I thought they were all dovetailed these days..

Reason I ask - Snipers have 30mm tubes, so will the mounts be compatible?

Davestate
19-05-2004, 04:14 PM
In that case then have a gander at the Prohunter 6-18x40WA, Hawke Varmints or if you've a bigger budget, the Elite 4200 range from Byshnell are excellent scopes.

Gary C
19-05-2004, 04:20 PM
Simmons Mag 44 mil dot I/R

Barrie_G
19-05-2004, 04:30 PM
Hi Geordie, yes the MFR has fixed mounts but you can get the 30mm mounts for the rapid range from BAR.

Davestate, funny that you should mention the Bushnell Elite range as even though my funds wont quite stretch to the 4200 I had been looking at the elite 3200 4-12x40 as this has parallax correction from 10 yards.

Another question, has anyone used the Opticswarehouse before and if so what are they like to deal with?

rayowl
19-05-2004, 04:36 PM
I cant talk about the other variants but the EB is top notch,
HTH

BTW mine is mounted on a MK1 Rapid, no probs there:D

Davestate
19-05-2004, 04:39 PM
Barrie,
There's a post in the sale sales section of all places commending their service.
I have just ordered an Elite from D&R (http://64.224.40.78/miva/merchant.mv) as recommended by many users on this, and other, forum/s (half price than available over here).

Barrie_G
19-05-2004, 05:06 PM
I'm just starting to order off the web I don't think I'm quite brave enough to order from "over the pond" just yet, so I'll just have to pay the premium for ordering from a uk business.

Snapshot.
19-05-2004, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by Barrie_G
Davestate, funny that you should mention the Bushnell Elite range as even though my funds wont quite stretch to the 4200 I had been looking at the elite 3200 4-12x40 as this has parallax correction from 10 yards.

Another question, has anyone used the Opticswarehouse before and if so what are they like to deal with? I bought exactly this scope from Opticswarehouse for my MFR. I ordered on-line on a Wednesday evening and it arrived at about 09:30 on the Friday. Can't use the free Butler Creek on the front as there isn't room but it's a seriously nice scope.

Jonathan

lionel
19-05-2004, 05:46 PM
A scope that only just fits on a Rapid MK1 or 2 won't fit on an MFR because it will foul the barrel shroud.

Lionel

Barrie_G
19-05-2004, 05:51 PM
lionel, Snapshot states that it just fits on his MFR not MK1 or II, If you were just informing me incase I did not already know this thanks for pointing it out but I was aware of this fact;) :D

Jon Budd
19-05-2004, 05:53 PM
Originally posted by Barrie_G
I'm just starting to order off the web I don't think I'm quite brave enough to order from "over the pond" just yet, so I'll just have to pay the premium for ordering from a uk business.

D&R are 100% safe mate - do it !

Jon Budd
19-05-2004, 05:55 PM
Elite 4-12x40 - is this available with milldot ?

I got the Legend 5-15x40 PA, about 170 landed all inc., milldot, loverly scope now sitting attop my CZ rimmy :)

HTH - JB

Snapshot.
19-05-2004, 06:05 PM
Originally posted by BuddyBoy
Elite 4-12x40 - is this available with milldot ? No, buggrit.

Russ6357
20-05-2004, 01:09 AM
10x42 is great scope for most situations.

However i might say that the mag is too high for low-light shooting (and your eyes are younger than mine!) and for squizzer blatting.

Ditto any similar "fast action" shooting.

airgunner2388
20-05-2004, 06:40 AM
I have both the Nikko Sterling & Tasco versions of this scope, all though perfect for HFT they leave a lot to be desired for hunting in the pre-dawn hours.

So if you want a mil dot for both may I suggest the Hawke mil pro HK9004 2.5-10 X 50 from Deben.

Regards
Barry

Shaggy
20-05-2004, 02:20 PM
Does anyone know if Edgor Bros do a addon for the 10x42 a bigger wheel? anyone know if Mr Taylor who does wheels for most is doing an extended wheel for the Edgor Bros?

I love the 10x40 Bushnell Elite3200 have a few of em but the Edgor bro has a 30mm tube & more light, I have had problems ajusting the Bushnell down & it's hard going under 15yards but possable, where the Edgor isn't such a problem. I am planning on replacing the Bushnells for Hunting & may do HFT also depends on my cash flow at the end of the month.

It could alter my decision to by them if I CAN get a bigger wheel.

Here's hoping

Shaggy

Baldie
20-05-2004, 03:51 PM
Spent a not small amount of time looking for "Edgar/Edgor" Bros scopes this afternoon (which means I'll have to work this evening now...) and come up with nothing at all.

Found some S/H stuff but nothing else.

The x10 mag with side/saddle focus sounds ideal for my current project.....

Web site or number anyone? Please?


:confused: :confused:

Snapshot.
20-05-2004, 03:59 PM
Sandwell Field Sports had at least one EB 10x42 in stock a couple of weeks ago.

Jonathan

airgunner2388
20-05-2004, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by Baldie
Spent a not small amount of time looking for "Edgar/Edgor" Bros scopes this afternoon (which means I'll have to work this evening now...) and come up with nothing at all.

Found some S/H stuff but nothing else.

The x10 mag with side/saddle focus sounds ideal for my current project.....

Web site or number anyone? Please?


:confused: :confused:

http://www.edgar-brothers.co.uk/

Baldie
20-05-2004, 06:02 PM
Snapshot

Rang Sandwell at 5.55pm thanks to your prompt post. Got ansa-phone despite them closing at 6pm. Have left my phone number.

airgunner2388

"edgar-brothers"

That's embarressing. Now why didn't I put a dash in with my Google query? (Or EB put their name without the dash in search engine keywords?)

Local shop (Park Street Guns) will get me one if I want. Useful call as I'm out of pellets (thanks Corovid) and forgot to get them this afternoon, so off in a minute to buy some....

Also found out, by slip of the tongue from Park Street, about a NEW x16 scope about to come on the market!!!! So might wait for that anyway.;)


Thanks for the info guys!!

:) :)

Baldie
21-05-2004, 08:16 AM
Hat's off to "Sandwell Field Sports" who rang me this morning at 9.05am.

Got good price for EB scope, which they ALWAYS keep in stock. Only downside to the conversation was what sounded like a Brummie/Wolverhampton accents. Poor bu$$ers.

:D :D :D

Chewie
21-05-2004, 09:07 AM
Originally posted by Baldie
Hat's off to "Sandwell Field Sports" who rang me this morning at 9.05am.

Got good price for EB scope, which they ALWAYS keep in stock. Only downside to the conversation was what sounded like a Brummie/Wolverhampton accents. Poor bu$$ers.

:D :D :D

I hope you don't mind me asking Geoff :o but how much were you quoted :) I have the Nikko version at present and was considering a second 10x42 :cool:

Craig-P
21-05-2004, 10:28 AM
If anyone wants one of the Edgar Bros 10x Snipers, drop me a line to; air_mobile19@hotmail.com as our shop always has them in stock - can't remember the price off the top of my head but can sort it all out if need be.

Cheers, Craig

airgunner2388
21-05-2004, 03:41 PM
Craig YHM

Regards
Barry

moltenmetal
21-05-2004, 07:35 PM
could any one tell me how long it takes to ship from the states or how long it toolk to recive goods from D&R

thanks steve:) :)

Shaggy
21-05-2004, 09:32 PM
from the states:rolleyes:
er well that all depends how the supplyer exports items,
US Postal Service or couriers it can vary between 2 days & 6 weeks.
if you send it standard delivery on USPS it coould be shipped & you are talking 6 weeks

check with who you are buying from, I have bought thinks that have been here in 2 days from receipt of my order but for the point of sale till it turned up on my door was 4 days.

you may want it here in a hurry (I know I always do) but bear in mind when you import from the US into the EU you pay duty @4% for the TOTAL VALUE OF GOOD Inc postage, then you pay VAT on that so if you want it here quick way up how much extra it's going to cost you. my advice is to pay on a credit Card that insures anything over 50 that way you won't need insurance from the supplier as your Card Company will cover it.

Hope it helps

Darren

Craig-P
21-05-2004, 11:18 PM
Originally posted by airgunner2388
Craig YHM

Regards
Barry

Barry, no mail received mate, please re-send making sure it's to;
air_mobile19@hotmail.com

(the other (aol)address was used just to register on the BBS)

Cheers mate - Craig