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28-10-2008, 04:26 PM
ive just swaped a record trigger unit in a 97k.all fine until, ive cocked the rifle taken the saftey off and nothing! it doesnt trip the sears.
cant work out why, im sure that i fired the trigger before cocking it.but this is the only thing it can be?
since the rifle is now cocked and i cant decock it i dont know what to do as i cant dismantle the rifle.
28-10-2008, 04:37 PM
Is the end cap aligned with the cylinder?
Does it still have the anti-bear trap fitted? Is this binding?
Long time since I've worked on an HW, but if I remember right, the safety is held in by the trigger unit - has the safety plunger been re-fitted correctly?
28-10-2008, 04:40 PM
Did you cock the trigger by hand before fitting it?
You need to do this then fire it before cocking the rifle.
28-10-2008, 04:43 PM
1. all is aligned properley
2. anti bear trap is fitted, and it doesnt appear to be binding.
3. the saftey plunger is held in by the trigger and it works as it should.
4. i did cock the trigger by hand before reassembly.
i can only think that i forgot to fire it before cocking.
what do i do??!!
28-10-2008, 04:54 PM
if i tap out the trigger retaining pins whilst its cocked obviously the gun will go off.but am i goint to do any serious damage?
28-10-2008, 04:58 PM
Yes. Either to yourself or to the rifle. Is there one up the spout?
28-10-2008, 05:01 PM
ive removed the pellet from the breech.
28-10-2008, 05:18 PM
The pellet will cushion the piston if it does go-off, but it needs to be in a safe direction....
Can you get anyone to help you? I think the best way to proceed would be to clamp the action upside down in a strong vice. You could get away with a workmate though you'll need some strong straps to hold it as the workmate won't hold it against spring pressure. You'll need to stand on the bottom rung too.
Cock the action again, but hold the lever right back against spring tension. It should be ok to tap the trigger pins out now, you will need someone to help here, don't try it single handed. When the pins are out your helper should be able to lift the unit out and you can slowly return the lever to battery.
For gawds sake take it easy though, that spring will be under some pressure and will try and twist the action out of the vice and out of your fingers, thick leather gloves would be a wise precaution :eek: I may be preaching to the wise here, but just think each move through before you do it.
28-10-2008, 05:37 PM
thanks for that mate. job done!!!
much along the line i was on, but not sure how to go about it :eek:
me thinks i owe you a drink or two!!
if you ever find yourself in biggin hill let me know!
28-10-2008, 05:43 PM
Don't mention it, just glad we got it sorted :)
28-10-2008, 06:14 PM
oyur not gonna believe it, but put the old trigger back in.definatley fire the trigger this time.and its done it again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
i cant work out why, never had this problem before.
28-10-2008, 06:40 PM
I had a similar problem today on my HW80
The safety button was sticking a bit and I had to tap it in a bit further, fired ok then. Stripped it down and the safety spring was catching inside a little. replaced it and work ok now. Perhaps this could be a similar problem to yours?
29-10-2008, 04:07 PM
many thanks for the advice chaps :)
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