View Full Version : surgeon 6.5x47 lapua
DUFF EYED DOYLE
03-09-2009, 09:14 PM
A couple of weeks ago at the last BBS shoot I took delivery of a new toy, to the disgust of Gavin from Anglo custom rifles (the rifle builders) I didn’t put a single round through it that day.
The rifle a surgeon action with Jackson CG trigger and a 28” 1-8 twist border barrel finished in od green and chambered in 6.5x 47 lapua sits in an AICS stock and is topped with an 8-32 night force NXS sitting in EGW rings
The first day out I had some factory lapua rounds (noticed a price tag on the box £38 for 20 ouch) which I acquired with a set of Redding dies, a few hundred new cases and an assortment of bullet heads.
After shooting in the barrel I got down to shooting some groups with what was left of the factory rounds and some home loads using the 123 lapua scenar bullet with viht N550 and alliant Re.15 as the propellant, these shot ok but not as well as expected.
Feeling a little disappointed with the initial testing and after speaking to some people with some experience of this calibre it was suggested that I ditch the scenars and try the 123grain smk the groups instantly improved and the after some further testing I came up with a load of 37.6gns of Re.15 which gives me 2890 fps and cloverleaf’s at 200 yards when bench rested.
I entered the rifle in a McQueen’s comp and I’m happy to say the rifle performed brilliantly and took first place.
So in summary I am chuffed with my new rifle and glad I went with 6.5x47 it’s a lot more civilised to shoot in the McQueen’s than my .308 TRG.
Over the next couple of weeks I will be testing the rifle out to 1000 yards and will update this post as time permits.
my new toy:
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee166/duffeyeddoyle/wrgdfgh005.jpg
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee166/duffeyeddoyle/surgeon65x47.jpg
harry mac
06-09-2009, 04:26 PM
A couple of weeks ago at the last BBS shoot I took delivery of a new toy, to the disgust of Gavin from Anglo custom rifles (the rifle builders) I didn’t put a single round through it that day.
The rifle a surgeon action with Jackson CG trigger and a 28” 1-8 twist border barrel finished in od green and chambered in 6.5x 47 lapua sits in an AICS stock and is topped with an 8-32 night force NXS sitting in EGW rings
The first day out I had some factory lapua rounds (noticed a price tag on the box £38 for 20 ouch) which I acquired with a set of Redding dies, a few hundred new cases and an assortment of bullet heads.
After shooting in the barrel I got down to shooting some groups with what was left of the factory rounds and some home loads using the 123 lapua scenar bullet with viht N550 and alliant Re.15 as the propellant, these shot ok but not as well as expected.
Feeling a little disappointed with the initial testing and after speaking to some people with some experience of this calibre it was suggested that I ditch the scenars and try the 123grain smk the groups instantly improved and the after some further testing I came up with a load of 37.6gns of Re.15 which gives me 1890 fps and cloverleaf’s at 200 yards when bench rested.
I entered the rifle in a McQueen’s comp and I’m happy to say the rifle performed brilliantly and took first place.
So in summary I am chuffed with my new rifle and glad I went with 6.5x47 it’s a lot more civilised to shoot in the McQueen’s than my .308 TRG.
Over the next couple of weeks I will be testing the rifle out to 1000 yards and will update this post as time permits.
my new toy:
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee166/duffeyeddoyle/wrgdfgh005.jpg
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee166/duffeyeddoyle/surgeon65x47.jpg
Surely you mean 2890fps?
Redmist
06-09-2009, 07:41 PM
Nice,
my own 6.5x47 loves 39g of Varget under the 123 Scenar, gives me 3010 fps and average .3" at 100.
If you do try this load, please work up to it as its a little warm.
Ive been using it in my own rifle for a few years and its suffered no ill effects.
Elwood
06-09-2009, 07:42 PM
Hi Stuart.
I too had problems with the 123 Scenars and switched to 120 gr or 123 SMK's. The Scenars were ok, normally about 1/2 inch groups, but the cartridge was developed as a target round and I wanted better accuracy, I found it with the SMK.
N140 and N540 also both work well, looks like you have a good shooter.
baldiedave
06-09-2009, 08:27 PM
hello buddy.
if its the gun i,m thinking of, its chamber was cut with our reamer [ on loan].
You arent shoving the scenar,s fast enough. This bullet has to be doing 2950+ to start shooting tiny groups, anything below this, and its decidedly average. I use 39 grains of vhit 540 in my own, and it gives these speeds, and bughole accuracy. every barrel cut with that reamer has been a tackdriver with scenars. Personally, i dont rate sierra bullets full stop, and scenars can usually be made to outshoot them, but thats just me. If you find it shoots smk,s, then put the scenars nearer the lands. Smk,s are very jump tolerant...scenars aren't.
DUFF EYED DOYLE
08-09-2009, 05:26 AM
Surely you mean 2890fps?
well spotted Sir!
DUFF EYED DOYLE
08-09-2009, 05:29 AM
hello buddy.
if its the gun i,m thinking of, its chamber was cut with our reamer [ on loan].
You arent shoving the scenar,s fast enough. This bullet has to be doing 2950+ to start shooting tiny groups, anything below this, and its decidedly average. I use 39 grains of vhit 540 in my own, and it gives these speeds, and bughole accuracy. every barrel cut with that reamer has been a tackdriver with scenars. Personally, i dont rate sierra bullets full stop, and scenars can usually be made to outshoot them, but thats just me. If you find it shoots smk,s, then put the scenars nearer the lands. Smk,s are very jump tolerant...scenars aren't.
Hi Dave, I think this is the rifle you are thinking of, I will give the scenars another try and push them a little harder to see if they come good.
watch this space!
harricook
08-09-2009, 05:52 AM
.................
my new toy:
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee166/duffeyeddoyle/wrgdfgh005.jpg
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee166/duffeyeddoyle/surgeon65x47.jpg
Thats just gun porn !
:D
Looks VERY nice
Roy
.
apjohnson73
29-04-2010, 04:14 PM
Very nice, thinking the an AI chassis myself.
Pengo
30-04-2010, 09:09 PM
A couple of weeks ago at the last BBS shoot I took delivery of a new toy, to the disgust of Gavin from Anglo custom rifles (the rifle builders) I didn’t put a single round through it that day.
The rifle a surgeon action with Jackson CG trigger and a 28” 1-8 twist border barrel finished in od green and chambered in 6.5x 47 lapua sits in an AICS stock and is topped with an 8-32 night force NXS sitting in EGW rings
The first day out I had some factory lapua rounds (noticed a price tag on the box £38 for 20 ouch) which I acquired with a set of Redding dies, a few hundred new cases and an assortment of bullet heads.
After shooting in the barrel I got down to shooting some groups with what was left of the factory rounds and some home loads using the 123 lapua scenar bullet with viht N550 and alliant Re.15 as the propellant, these shot ok but not as well as expected.
Feeling a little disappointed with the initial testing and after speaking to some people with some experience of this calibre it was suggested that I ditch the scenars and try the 123grain smk the groups instantly improved and the after some further testing I came up with a load of 37.6gns of Re.15 which gives me 2890 fps and cloverleaf’s at 200 yards when bench rested.
I entered the rifle in a McQueen’s comp and I’m happy to say the rifle performed brilliantly and took first place.
So in summary I am chuffed with my new rifle and glad I went with 6.5x47 it’s a lot more civilised to shoot in the McQueen’s than my .308 TRG.
Over the next couple of weeks I will be testing the rifle out to 1000 yards and will update this post as time permits.
my new toy:
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee166/duffeyeddoyle/wrgdfgh005.jpg
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee166/duffeyeddoyle/surgeon65x47.jpg
Does this mean your .308 TRG is for sale....????:D:D
Cheers. Paul :)
DUFF EYED DOYLE
01-05-2010, 12:05 AM
Does this mean your .308 TRG is for sale....????:D:D
Cheers. Paul :)
Afraid not Paul decided to keep both of them:D
gsjacko
17-06-2010, 02:17 PM
Thanks for the interesting post
I have ordered a 6.5 x 47 and can't wait. When you say the new rifle is more civilised than your 308 - do you mean less recoil ? how about noise? I am not sure if I will need a sound mod - I farm shoot and need one for my 22-250 but not for my 2 308's or smaller calibres. I know noise is very subjective but I woul welcome your comments please
Paul
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.1.7 Copyright © 2013 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved.