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yansica1
28-10-2009, 12:52 PM
I bought one of these after having had a BSA S10 FAC for a long time, just fancied something
a bit more wieldy and light.

The first impression in the gunshop was that it was well made for the money and light enough
without being too light as to make accurate off hand shooting difficult. Remember I had
ordered this without actually handling it so was delighted to find the lever cocking very nearly
as slick as my sub 12 ft lbs HW100. It comes to the shoulder nicely enough but there is still
that hint of nose heavy feel to it. Next I proceeded to fix my Simmons 6-24 x 50 on top only to
find that the mounts would not give the required clearence. Luckily as I was still in the
gunshop this was soon fixed with a pair of high Sportsmatch mounts which now have the
scope some 8mm away from the barrel. Obviously the handling changes dramatically with
such a heavy scope on top but it still feels a bit nose heavy.

Having bought a tin of AirArms 16.1 grain pellets I filled up the magazine easily enough and
went to zero the outfit. Surprisingly the 1st pellet landed on the A4 size cardboard I set up at
40 yards (about 8" low and some 4" right) - it is always nice when quick, rough turns of the
dials bring about a real POI difference. I would say I got the pellets on to the intended mark
within the first clip and thereafter was able to get a 5 shot group that could be covered with a
10p piece. Pretty good I think bearing in mind my rest was far from ideal and it being a brand
new rifle. The strange thing was that the first shot of the 3rd clip went massively low
indicating that the rifle had dropped well below its operating band so I spent the last few shots
blowing away spent plastic wads on the ground hardly missing anything off hand at around
20 yards.

Confession time now, I had yet to read any of the instructions as such but having had quite
a few rifles before this isn`t usually a problem. The air in the reservoir was what the gun had
arrived in. Once I got it home I put it away until such time as I could test the velocity etc,
over my chrono. The chance came soon enough and one day I spent a good couple of
hours indoors firing lots of shots and noting the FPS / ft lbs. There is a knurled ring on the right
hand side which alters the power; what I found rather odd is how easily this ring turns which
does not bode well for it staying put and not altering accidentally through rubbing against the
inside of the gunslip for example. Anyway I found that on the lowest setting the rifle gave
a near miraculous fps variation of just 3 fps (501 fps with 16.1 grain AiArms) or just under
9 ft lbs. The imprecise nature of the ring makes graduated clicks impossible but roughly
deviding the complete adjustment from lock to lock into 4, I found that on position 2 it gave
a ft lbs return of 24.5 ftlbs, 3/4 of the way it settled on just under 30 ft lbs and position 4
returned just over 34 ft lbs. My intention is to use the rifle at 30 ft lbs or position 3.
Other interesting observations were that on the low setting the rifle is extremely quiet,
perhaps not even needing a silencer, but on the higher setting it most definately could do
with a can of sorts. The so called in-built baffle is in my opinion just a nuisance as it has
rendered the rifle rather difficult to match up to the vast majority of silencers available. An
adapor is of course obtainable that would cure this but .....................................
I am currently awaiting the arrival of this adaptor and intend to test my rimfire unit on it.
This is a very short, yet highly effective unit I`ve had on my bolt action Brno for years, it
is also barely thicker than the thickish barrel on the AirArms so it`s looks should not be too
badly affected.

Another point worth mentioning is the trigger; this is very good indeed with 3 allen key
holes allowing pretty impressive alterations but what is annoying is that the un-cocked
action leaves the trigger in a state of floppy movement which is off putting on such a classy
outfit. Incidentally you can de-cock the action by holding the lever at it`s widest open point
and pulling the trigger but of course you must make sure that there is not already a pellet
in the chamber or you could risk doubling up next time you cock the rifle.

One thing I have yet to figure out is the +.......-- screw on the left of the rifle, I really can`t
see it`s purpose yet although I am sure someone will soon tell us.

The rifle is very easy to charge and despite the manual suggesting the accuracy of the
gauge should not be compared to that of the bottle, I found them to be identical in readout.
In terms of shots per fill obviously this will vary but I believe at 30 ft lbs you can get up to 30
good shots with a 20 fps variation from first to last. This is not brilliant in the context of a
tuned or top end regulated rifle but you have to remember this is much cheaper than the best
out there. One thing I did find was that as one noticed the fall off in velocity it is possible to
get a bit more oomph by turning the power ring back to it`s highest setting where perhaps
another 5-10 or so shots could be had close enough to the 30 ft lbs. I am looking forward to
a lot of rabbit and pigeon shooting with this outfit. :):D

owl
28-10-2009, 06:22 PM
Good review For a great gun:D

agodders
28-10-2009, 08:43 PM
thanks for a good read. :)Al.:)

Phil Lambert
29-10-2009, 10:45 AM
Hi yansica1. I bought my 410 Xtra in June of this year and I have to agree with you that it's a cracking rifle. I, too, use AA Field in 5.52 and these are devastatingly accurate. The only thing I have found is that regular barrel cleaning (a simple pull through every hundred shots or so) keeps the accuracy up to top notch. AA pellets are soft and, at the velocity you achieve with the Xtra, the barrels tend to get a little 'smeary'.
Mine chronos out at between 940 and 960 fps and I'm good for 30 shots before the power starts to drop off.
I agree the adjuster knob is a little too easy to move, but I have now got into a routine of regularly checking that it hasn't moved whilst being slung over my shoulder. The + and - on the left hand side of the rifle equate to the position of the adjuster knob. + is obviously for more power, - for less. It's just a visual check. It's not for screwing, it changes if you shift the position of the adjuster knob.
I must admit I haven't even considered any additional sound moderation. I am entirely content with the suppression given by the shrouded barrel internal baffles.

This rifle is, without doubt, the best FAC air rifle I have shot in seven years of being on ticket.

yansica1
29-10-2009, 12:37 PM
Hi yansica1. I bought my 410 Xtra in June of this year and I have to agree with you that it's a cracking rifle. I, too, use AA Field in 5.52 and these are devastatingly accurate. The only thing I have found is that regular barrel cleaning (a simple pull through every hundred shots or so) keeps the accuracy up to top notch. AA pellets are soft and, at the velocity you achieve with the Xtra, the barrels tend to get a little 'smeary'.
Mine chronos out at between 940 and 960 fps and I'm good for 30 shots before the power starts to drop off.
I agree the adjuster knob is a little too easy to move, but I have now got into a routine of regularly checking that it hasn't moved whilst being slung over my shoulder. The + and - on the left hand side of the rifle equate to the position of the adjuster knob. + is obviously for more power, - for less. It's just a visual check. It's not for screwing, it changes if you shift the position of the adjuster knob.
I must admit I haven't even considered any additional sound moderation. I am entirely content with the suppression given by the shrouded barrel internal baffles.

This rifle is, without doubt, the best FAC air rifle I have shot in seven years of being on ticket.


Hi Phil,

thanks for the reply, you have just reminded me of something I ommited to mention. The manual suggests cleaning the barrel regularly and athough I am not too fussy about cleaning airgun barrels, I attempted to use the pull thru I use for my Brno but unfortunaltely the presence of the shroud means that my heavy 50 lb breaking strain fishing line could not be fed through from either end :eek::mad:. So now I have the task of buying a cleaning rod which I don`t look forward to using as I would hate the thought of the inside coming in contact with anything other than soft material.

Phil Lambert
29-10-2009, 01:40 PM
I wouldn't risk rodding it mate. You can either stick a suitably sized drinking straw into the end of the barrel so it passes the baffles and engages in the barrel proper and feed your conger line through the drinking straw so it exits the breech or, do what I did and attach a small thin weight (a hammered down small fishing weight with a small swivel attached) to a length of thin strong string or flexible plastic twine and feed it through from the breech so that it exits from the end of the barrel. You will have to make sure you hold the rifle vertical so the weight doesn't stop when it contacts the baffles but, with practice it gets easier. You then just attach your flannelette patch (I use Napier Rifle Clean) and pull away as normal.
I would rather leave the barrel mucky than stick a rod down it!!!!

yansica1
29-10-2009, 02:21 PM
I wouldn't risk rodding it mate. You can either stick a suitably sized drinking straw into the end of the barrel so it passes the baffles and engages in the barrel proper and feed your conger line through the drinking straw so it exits the breech or,

I would rather leave the barrel mucky than stick a rod down it!!!!


I think I`ll try the straw trick, thanks :D:)

mitch66
29-10-2009, 10:16 PM
hi, if you pm me your address i will send you a piece of 4mm air line and you can pass the line down the center. knot at one end loop at the other. reduce loop so it will pass thought mod / barrel then open loop pass patch thought loop pull knot end so loop traps patch against air line and loop then pull thought barrel. ps good read:D carl

yansica1
30-10-2009, 11:30 AM
hi, if you pm me your address i will send you a piece of 4mm air line and you can pass the line down the center. knot at one end loop at the other. reduce loop so it will pass thought mod / barrel then open loop pass patch thought loop pull knot end so loop traps patch against air line and loop then pull thought barrel. ps good read:D carl

Thanks my friend, I have a cut down straw already sorted :).

Doug Knapp
31-10-2009, 07:45 AM
Hi Yansica, recommend you try the AA Field Plus pellets, at 18.1 grain they carry more energy than their 15.9 grain cousins and perform really well in my 30ft lb rifle.

The advice to keep the barrel clean is spot on, about every 100 pellets I fond. A tip off here to fire a couple of felts through the barrel does the trick for me - and the supersonic crack as they exit the barrel is so cool:cool::cool:

yansica1
31-10-2009, 12:16 PM
Hi Yansica, recommend you try the AA Field Plus pellets, at 18.1 grain they carry more energy than their 15.9 grain cousins and perform really well in my 30ft lb rifle.

The advice to keep the barrel clean is spot on, about every 100 pellets I fond. A tip off here to fire a couple of felts through the barrel does the trick for me - and the supersonic crack as they exit the barrel is so cool:cool::cool:


Hi Doug,

I do intend to test quite a few pellets in due course but I have to say despite the fact that precharged rifles prefer heavier pellets, my own preference is for lighter types even in FAC mode. I just enjoy the flatter trajectory and less airtime.

I`m not convinced I`d try the felt cleaners in case they splay around into the baffles!!!

willy
01-11-2009, 01:45 PM
Baracudas in mine.
I find the extra clout for the crows handy.
So much so i shot 8 yesterday under a sitty tree.;)
Best fac rifle I have ever had.

goosie
01-11-2009, 05:30 PM
I'm in the market for a fac pcp at the moment.

I've narrowed it down to the Air Arms or the Fx Cyclone.

Your review has helped me get closer to a final decision. Thanks.