My New Sako Quad

[Scotland rifles]

Well i can only make a small short report for now.

got it saturday morning from Nico.243 who had it all packed in the shop ready to go.(thanks Daz.)

We had planned to go shooting last night but thing came up.

1, i am going up north today and will be away on the road for a couple of days so spent the time with the family,

2,Then Darren is shooting on the range this morning, so he was best of keeping the cookie jar full as well by staying in.

So the new Sako quad.

Well i popped out just to check it out, and i can only say one thing,

i was shocked, i had some really bad feed problems with the 22lr (oops, forgot to mention that i have to pick the 17hmr barrel up later this week so i am only reporting on the 22lr side today)

I found that the bullet was so far out of alignment that i was worried that i had a duff rifle. so i undid the barrel and did it up again,

well that done it, it seemed to get better as i got a few more rounds down range, i found that the bolt was also a bit tight and not as smooth as i was expecting, so lets hope it gets better and better as it goes on.

i like the feel of the rifle and the uncut barrel seems to be OK from the vehicle for now, but i may in the end get them both chopped, but not sure yet.

its accuracy was good at this stage prodicing a 50p sized lost count of the shots fired hole at 50 yards,

i will have to set the trigger up later too :o as its like trying to pull a bird at your first school disco.

so the overall impression so far is.:rolleyes:

its ok

i have to admit i did love my CZ's i just hope this wee rifle performs for me, so that i can at some point say i love it too.

updates to follow.

heres a picture with the dm80 on it.

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/9451/newsakoquad003.jpg

[no bull]

Bob you will find that the Quad bolt is a 2 piece unit so when pushed forward using the bolt handle it can cause it to be tight, if you push the bolt forward using say your thumb pushing on the back of the bolt it goes forward easily. ATB Nick.

[Scotland rifles]

Bob you will find that the Quad bolt is a 2 piece unit so when pushed forward using the bolt handle it can cause it to be tight, if you push the bolt forward using say your thumb pushing on the back of the bolt it goes forward easily. ATB Nick.

thanks Nick

i had noticed this last night, but i am still not to happy with it, but time will tell,

i am so glad i don't use my 22 as much. if i have feed problems with the 17 i will be well miffed.

bob.

[Spanner.]

Close the bolt before you nip up the barrel.

[Scotland rifles]

Close the bolt before you nip up the barrel.

cheers Spanner.

i watched the cd and read the book.

still had problems with the 22lr loading correctly.

i will check it all out when i have more time.

off up north in a bit.

bob.

[deano]

get the bigger bolt handle my good man! ;)

[Scotland rifles]

get the bigger bolt handle my good man! ;)

hi Dean

just ordered the cheek piece and i may have the bolt handle in the end, but it will not cure the above problem i can tell you,

bob.

[RogerH]

hi Dean

just ordered the cheek piece and i may have the bolt handle in the end, but it will not cure the above problem i can tell you,

bob.

I've got a Sako Quad. Where did you order the cheek piece from, if you don't mind me asking?

[Scotland rifles]

I've got a Sako Quad. Where did you order the cheek piece from, if you don't mind me asking?

you have to ask a RFD to order it for you as its available as a spare from the UK importers.

bob.

[nico243]

you have to ask a RFD to order it for you as its available as a spare from the UK importers.

bob.

It will both do the business and look good into the bargain bud;)
When are you getting the .17hmr barrel?
When do I get a go?

[Scotland rifles]

It will both do the business and look good into the bargain bud;)
When are you getting the .17hmr barrel?
When do I get a go?

picking the barrel up tomorrow on the way back from Kent, then as in the pm mate,

just no chance of any shooting this week as im up to my eyes in work and away this weekend in Selby for a party,

bob.

[deano]

sure you will enjoy it, was out with mine this morning.

on a side note, i must say that of the 2 or 3 i've shot the bolt hasn't been stiff, maybe get someone to take a look at it.

[Scotland rifles]

sure you will enjoy it, was out with mine this morning.

on a side note, i must say that of the 2 or 3 i've shot the bolt hasn't been stiff, maybe get someone to take a look at it.

i will do Dean.

i am out and about all over the UK just now and will be for the foreseeable future (busy with work) so i will have to sort it when i get back.

bob.

[Scotland rifles]

got the 17 barrel today.

but sadly unable to shoot it this week to report back on the chanbering results until next week,

bob.

[deano]

hope all goes well mate, sure it will! :D

[Spanner.]

From RFC with the same issue :

Try putting a stick on felt cabinet door bumper on the back of the magazine so when the magazine is inserted it is just inside the magazine well. It will effectively tip the magazine up on the front. I used this method for a few years on my Finfire 10 round mags until I got up the courage to adjust the feed lips which can go wrong real fast.
Pete

[Andy P]

Have you been able to get a set up where you can swop the 22 and 17hmr barrels over without removing the scope?

I like the idea but no sure how prictical it is


Andrew

[adam1]

picking the barrel up tomorrow on the way back from Kent, then as in the pm mate,

just no chance of any shooting this week as im up to my eyes in work and away this weekend in Selby for a party,

bob.

A party in Selby? People from Selby dont have the spare money to lavish on partys!!!!!!!;):D

[Spanner.]

Have you been able to get a set up where you can swop the 22 and 17hmr barrels over without removing the scope?

I like the idea but no sure how prictical it is


Andrew

Its very practical. Just get a Weaver rail and QRW rings and use two scope or 1 with resettable turrets.

[leadpig]

any more news on this

[ippissimus]

Have you been able to get a set up where you can swop the 22 and 17hmr barrels over without removing the scope?

I like the idea but no sure how prictical it is


Andrew

I use sports match high mounts on my quad the scope is a 3.5x15x50 nightforce, the barrels will interchange as long as you remove the sun shade, when changing from 17hmr to 22lr i know exactly how much adjustment to dial into the scope i shoot one or two shots at a target after changing barrels and adjusting scope and it has been perfect every time.

[rpgibb]

The difference between the quad and CZ's in my opinion is unbelievable. I don't really know how people can compare the two. It's the small differences which add up. Love the gun.

RPG

[yogi_bear]

I had a .22 Quad from new, its the montelfetro model with heavy barrel and bbuilt in chekpiece in synthetic. Love the gun to bits but the action was bit stiff to start with and it didnt like the Winchester bullets as they left loads of waxy residue which stopped the bullets loading properly. but now its working aok after 3 months

I ended up with CCI ammo and it love these and Eley but everybody is stopping selling eley round my way. superbly accurate gun

[HeavyOil]

I had a .22 Quad from new, its the montelfetro model with heavy barrel and bbuilt in chekpiece in synthetic. Love the gun to bits but the action was bit stiff to start with and it didnt like the Winchester bullets as they left loads of waxy residue which stopped the bullets loading properly. but now its working aok after 3 months

I ended up with CCI ammo and it love these and Eley but everybody is stopping selling eley round my way. superbly accurate gun

I tried one in a gunshop, literally just out of the box. Both the salesman and I criticised the action. We thought the factory supplied it very dry, and action needed stripping and lubricating before first use.

Have decided to buy two guns anyway, as that is what I applied for on my FAC. One will be a take-down so more portable.

[John_R]

I had a .22 Quad from new, its the montelfetro model with heavy barrel and bbuilt in chekpiece in synthetic.

Montefeltro is a Benelli thing, perhaps you mean a Monte Carlo style stock?

Either way, I am very tempted by the Quad, though would probably not go for the varmint type in order to save weight.

[Si.243]

Come on........ my next purchase is resting on this review :D

[yogi_bear]

sorry i meant Monte Carlo stock, apologies

my action was also a bit stiff to start with but that is all down to the gun tolerances and the way its made. It gives you great accuracy but the parts are a bit stiff admittedly, i just squirted a bit of WD40 on the bolt everytime i use it for first couple months and it eased off afterwards.

I liked the trigger action plus the heavy barrel suits me when i'm shooting target as well as major bunny warrens, the normal hunting barrel probably balances a bit better

[John_R]

I got to see the synthetic stock at the Game Fair on Friday. I don't like it at all, so if I buy a Quad it will be the wood. On the other hand, I did like the Sako 85 in synthetic. :)

[warbucks]

The difference between the quad and CZ's in my opinion is unbelievable. I don't really know how people can compare the two. It's the small differences which add up. Love the gun.

RPGFirst of all before i comment on the above post, i like to say im sorry to hear (Scotlands rifles/ Bob.js) is having problems with his new rifle, i do hope that he gets it sorted and he's happy with it in the end, as there's nowt worst than your new pride and joy not being right, and Bob has said he loves his CZ's. Ive only owned CZ's, but ive looked at buying Arnie's and Sako's, and i couldnt see why i needed to spend the extra money over the CZ's, having used CZ r/f before i bought, i must admit i havent shot an Arnie or Sako, ( im not knocking anyone that buys an Arnie or Sako) but some people say CZ's they dont work right out of the box, ( i agree) they benifit from the trigger kit fitting ( £10-£20 the latter price if fitted ) and the barrel being free floated, ie 20 min's with the sand paper, a bit of sealent on, end result is a gun that is more accurate than the man behind it. Unfortunatly what this review seems to show that Sako quad's also dont always work right out of the box, as for the Arnie's, i have a mate thats got an Arnie hmr, and when he carries the gun on his back on the sling the bolt ride's up, which can be a problem if you dont notice it before your next shot, this doesnt happen with the CZ's because when the safety catch is on it locks the bolt down, also mate tells me the Arnie is only a four shot mag. Ill just put my tin hat on.

Dave (warbucks)

[FoxFatal]

if you only put 8 in the mag then it will feed perfect. i find that it doesnt like 10 with SOME ammo. Eley club feed perfect but match dont like 10 in the mag.

i get other problems with my quad such as spent shells not ejecting due to the tighter chamber.

i cant even shoot CCI subs because they are oversized and wont go into the rifling without force.

i think the quality of a CZ is poor but for the £££ its a good gun. the 455 American seems a better gun if you look at the pictures and reviews.

the 455 looks like it was made in 2010 and not 1910 when you look at the metal parts.

i wish i knew when it was coming to the uk

[RogerH]

if you only put 8 in the mag then it will feed perfect. i find that it doesnt like 10 with SOME ammo. Eley club feed perfect but match dont like 10 in the mag.

i get other problems with my quad such as spent shells not ejecting due to the tighter chamber.

i cant even shoot CCI subs because they are oversized and wont go into the rifling without force.

i think the quality of a CZ is poor but for the £££ its a good gun. the 455 American seems a better gun if you look at the pictures and reviews.

the 455 looks like it was made in 2010 and not 1910 when you look at the metal parts.

i wish i knew when it was coming to the uk

I have the same problem with loading the maximum rounds in the magazine. BTW do you know that when you fire the last round the case does not eject.
Great little rifle.

[FoxFatal]

I have the same problem with loading the maximum rounds in the magazine. BTW do you know that when you fire the last round the case does not eject.
Great little rifle.

mine always eject unless the chamber is dirty with wax.

out the 17hmr barrel on and this is a brillaint gun with none of the issues.

i think half the problems are due to the .22lr bullet being so varied in size and lubricant

[Spanner.]

Well I have a Wooden Quad Varmint and after replacing the bolt handle and cutting it to 16 inches I can't fault it, superb rifle.

[Ady]

Well I have a Wooden Quad Varmint and after replacing the bolt handle and cutting it to 16 inches I can't fault it, superb rifle.

+1 As you know ours are virtually identical, with same custom bolt handle and cut to 16".
Doesn't matter when I pick it up, on impulse at seeing a pigeon in next door field or a good day out.
It just satisfies every time I pull the trigger :)

[BG]

The ejection issue is caused by small amounts of wax from the rounds being left in the breech area. After so many rounds have been fired, the cases get stuck in the breech and do not eject properly. I use Winchester Subs btw.

I experienced this regularly with my .22lr Quad synthetic. The solution was to:

1) File the ejector claw to make it flatter (advice given by "some bloke" on here).

and

2) Pull a dry boresnake through the barrel every two or three outings which loosens and removes any small amounts of wax deposits stuck in the breech area.


Problem sorted.:)

[FoxFatal]

I have the same problem with loading the maximum rounds in the magazine. BTW do you know that when you fire the last round the case does not eject.
Great little rifle.

i dont get that problem it may be to do with wax or a oversized case. these cases arent very consistantly made.

in all honestly i never use 22lr now i put the 17hmr barrel on for hunting. exploding pigeons is to good to miss

[RogerH]

i dont get that problem it may be to do with wax or a oversized case. these cases arent very consistantly made.

in all honestly i never use 22lr now i put the 17hmr barrel on for hunting. exploding pigeons is to good to miss

It's never a problem as its a way of telling me I've just fired the last round. I remove the mag and the empty case falls out of the magwell.

[FoxFatal]

It's never a problem as its a way of telling me I've just fired the last round. I remove the mag and the empty case falls out of the magwell.

The quad is a gun with personality i think. its got its little quirks you learn to live with.

its a nice looking gun especially with a 14" barrel and Richard Popes silencer on it. nice bit of walnut and deadly out to 100-200 yards with 17hmr or 22lr. my next barrel might be 22WMR VMAX for some harder hitting fox action.

saying that 17hmr stopped a vixen in its tracks the other night no problem

[bewsh]

I have this gun with all four calibres. ( I got a deal on the boxed set that was too good to miss)

I am not a fan of the 22mag but the other three I like a lot.


I had the .22lr case sticking problem as well. seemed to only happen on unfired rounds and it was cured with a quick wizz with a boresnake after each use (each trip not each shot!)

the problem I had was the swapping of 3 (if not four) calibres with one scope.
I worked out the zero points for each on the scope but if you decide to go from one to a different calibre and then back to another then it all gets a bit confusing especially given there is no way of telling how far round you have wound the adjusters.
I decided to use two scopes, one for .22 and one for the .17 calibres (very predictable POI/zero).

the Qr products for 9-11mm devetails are non existant and the 9-11/weaver adapters are on the whole pretty shoddy.

I had a solution made up which is spot on.
Leupold gunmaker bases machined with a 9-11mm dovetail and fitted with QR rings.
now have a 3-9x40IR scope for dawn and dusks bunnies under 100yds with the .22lr and a 6.5-20x40 for .17m2 and HMR long range vermin.

have used a few rimfires (CZ, BRNO, Browing) and they all have their good and bad points but the flexibility of this one with one rifle is great

[Spanner.]

Weaver rail for use with QD rings, these are great quality.

http://www.diproductsinc.com/Products.aspx?CAT=3601

[09mutley05]

hi bob i'v got 2 sako quads one in .22lr cut to 12.5" and the other .17hmr in the varmint synthetic. the .22 shoots as good as it did before i had the barrel chopped, so in my opinion have it chopped makes it much easier to shoot out of a truck.

all the best matt

[diggermad]

We have a 17hmr at 15" barrel, looks a little odd, with a chubby sak mod on, but does the job good to 150yard.its great in the 4x4

[SandyB]

I have this gun with all four calibres. ( I got a deal on the boxed set that was too good to miss)

I am not a fan of the 22mag but the other three I like a lot.


I had the .22lr case sticking problem as well. seemed to only happen on unfired rounds and it was cured with a quick wizz with a boresnake after each use (each trip not each shot!)

the problem I had was the swapping of 3 (if not four) calibres with one scope.
I worked out the zero points for each on the scope but if you decide to go from one to a different calibre and then back to another then it all gets a bit confusing especially given there is no way of telling how far round you have wound the adjusters.
I decided to use two scopes, one for .22 and one for the .17 calibres (very predictable POI/zero).

the Qr products for 9-11mm devetails are non existant and the 9-11/weaver adapters are on the whole pretty shoddy.
I had a solution made up which is spot on.
Leupold gunmaker bases machined with a 9-11mm dovetail and fitted with QR rings.
now have a 3-9x40IR scope for dawn and dusks bunnies under 100yds with the .22lr and a 6.5-20x40 for .17m2 and HMR long range vermin.

have used a few rimfires (CZ, BRNO, Browing) and they all have their good and bad points but the flexibility of this one with one rifle is great

Not when you look at this stuff as posted by Spanner! I bought a few last year, 1 for me and for some others, wouldn't be without it now, perfect for the Warne QR mounts and weaver rail NV units:D

http://i408.photobucket.com/albums/pp164/Sandy_750/Rifles/IMG_0082.jpg
http://i408.photobucket.com/albums/pp164/Sandy_750/Rifles/IMG_0079.jpg

[dannywayoflife]

I've thought about a quad but can you get the harming barrels in 16"? Keep us posted with your review

[Candocad]

The quad is one of my favour rifles, the only problem I have ever had is deciding which calibre to use!

I bought mine with the 4 barrels and synthetic stock, in a metal case. I had bought the scope 2nd hand from here earlier, and married it all together with the 'dedicated' Burris mounts.

I have used it in all weathers, for everything from plinking at hunting camp to hunting grouse in the Alpine. (That's what they use here for grouse, no comment.) And it has performed without fault.

I have changed the bolt handle to a larger aluminium one, the orginal was just plain nasty. The only other bits I am not that impressed with is the trigger. It is quite acceptable, but could be better. There is a 'tuning service' south of the border here, so I'll get it fixed this summer. The last item is the stock. It feels cheap, I have a Sako 75 Stainless synthetic which feels great, but the Quad is too small, thin and feels really cheap. A custom stock is another project in the waiting, but it should not be so, with a rifle that is far from cheap to purchase. ($1,800+ taxes.)

Accuracy is good, it shoots better than I can so I am very happy. The HMR & Mach 2 calibres are really impressive, and the .22WMag does the job on coyotes really well. In fact the .22 LR is the least impressive, but used the most for plinking.

The Burris 'dedicated' scope is good quaity, but really 'picky' on eye placement. It has no flexibilty on where you place your head, it has to be in an exact spot, which I suppose could be one of the reasons why it is so accurate? The 'dial in' rings look a good idea, but when you have it set up for 4 different calibres, you still need to have a good think before you adjust them to the colour coded barrel band. (I go back to .22lr, and use that as the 'datum' so I know where to go from that calibre to any another.)

Overall an excellent rifle, and very versatile. I would recommend one in a heart beat.

Candocad.

[bewsh]

Not when you look at this stuff as posted by Spanner! I bought a few last year, 1 for me and for some others, wouldn't be without it now, perfect for the Warne QR mounts and weaver rail NV units:D

http://i408.photobucket.com/albums/pp164/Sandy_750/Rifles/IMG_0082.jpg
http://i408.photobucket.com/albums/pp164/Sandy_750/Rifles/IMG_0079.jpg

I looked at those but they dont offer a true "return to zero" QR base.
The clamp required to fit onto a weaver 3/8" or 9-11mm has too many variables to offer RTZ.

I tried them and whilst they are close (1-2" between first group and refit group at 100yds) they werent close enough to give confidence at 100+ without a zero check

[Airtight]

I looked at those but they dont offer a true "return to zero" QR base.
The clamp required to fit onto a weaver 3/8" or 9-11mm has too many variables to offer RTZ.

I tried them and whilst they are close (1-2" between first group and refit group at 100yds) they werent close enough to give confidence at 100+ without a zero check

I'm looking into qr mounts and a weaver rail for my quad. Are you satified with the rtz of the leupold set up you have? I was looking at genuine sako optilok qr mounts and rail, but the price is rediculous.

[SandyB]

I looked at those but they dont offer a true "return to zero" QR base.
The clamp required to fit onto a weaver 3/8" or 9-11mm has too many variables to offer RTZ.

I tried them and whilst they are close (1-2" between first group and refit group at 100yds) they werent close enough to give confidence at 100+ without a zero check

Thats a big difference, what calibre are you using? Was it the same rimfire technologies rail with warne mounts? I'd always fire a zero check when removing / replacing any scope, but if you can buy a set-up which is guaranteed, then that'll be the way to go.;)