Rifle Scope

[slow09]

Hi all,

I'm curious, i'm after a decent target scope for my rifle.
I'm looking into the 6-24x50 type of scope and would like advice and information on the good stuff.

I have used that size before and it was great, but the scope felt cheap and had problems zeroing in.


EDIT:
I have had a gander and found some good scope reviews, but still want the original information.

I am looking convincingly at the BSA 8-32x44 due to it's excellent review by D Martin (http://www.airgunbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=454716)
(And of course, the price tag)

[severnsider]

I'm quite sure that others will differ in their opinions, but I have found (if you really want a 6-24 x 50 and can put up with the weight), the rather dodgily-named "Besonder Optisch" is an incredible scope for the money - if you can find one second hand. Side wheel focus, 30mm body, fine mil-dot reticle and 1/8" turret adjustment. I have used two of these and their clarity at all ranges has been superb compared to other offerings costing a lot more (although I have not, I'm afraid, had the pleasure of trying a Leupold or Schmidt and Bender).
Worth looking out for one second hand perhaps in the £80 £100 range?
Good luck!

[slow09]

Thanks for that Severnsider.

I have measured the distance where I currently shoot:

54 feet / 16.5 metres / 18 yards

I have a break barrel rifle, being the BSA Meteor. I have been online reading and found that somewhere it says the 6-24x50 scope is too large for the rifle, so now I am wondering what kind of size I should actually look into ...

I am getting seriously into this, even though it's only targets, I like to be dead on with shots and accuracy.

[severnsider]

Hang on... is this a wind-up? You've posted this in the Long Range target Shooting section!:confused:

For a Meteor why not try a simple AGS 3-9 x 40 so that you can see where the pellets strike or better still just use the open sights!

[BigDuncs]

Thanks for that Severnsider.

I have measured the distance where I currently shoot:

54 feet / 16.5 metres / 18 yards

I have a break barrel rifle, being the BSA Meteor. I have been online reading and found that somewhere it says the 6-24x50 scope is too large for the rifle, so now I am wondering what kind of size I should actually look into ...

I am getting seriously into this, even though it's only targets, I like to be dead on with shots and accuracy.

A common problem when starting out is choosing the equipment too soon. It would probably be much better for you to join a club, meet other shooters and find what particular specialty of the sport interests you the most. Because this will dictate your kit, including scope choice.

However, I do think a 6-24 is probably too much. But do get friendly advice from a local shooter if you possibly can. Good luck - think twice and buy once! ;)

[slow09]

Hang on... is this a wind-up? You've posted this in the Long Range target Shooting section!:confused:

For a Meteor why not try a simple AGS 3-9 x 40 so that you can see where the pellets strike or better still just use the open sights!


I can't put this into the air pistol section.

I have zeroed the open sights, but prefer a magnified, more accurate shot.

I'm looking for a scope that fits the rifle length as we speak, and am seeing plenty of 3-9's upwards. I'm now looking at what options I have available and do not want to buy cheap crap like smk or vector optics, etc.

[severnsider]

Hmmmm....... I know what you mean about buying crap. I used an AGS Sapphire on my Meteor for ages, but having re-parallaxed it to suit 20 yards it wasn't much good at longer ranges, so perhaps an AO scope would be useful if you wanted to extend your range a bit? Lots of people rate the MTC Mamba Lite, which has the advantage of side focus and a nice fine reticle. It might not look out of place on a Meteor. The Bushnell scopes offer bright pictures with a plain reticle - maybe try and have a look at them too?
Good luck in your search!

[guff878]

In my view Vector optics scopes are not cheap crap as you put it. I have one on my trailsman and it is amazingly clear and has shot dead on since I got it about 1 year ago and I have only zeroed it once.
But if you still don't fancy one I'd go for the Simmons Whitetail Classic, brilliant scope and has taken lots of knocks on my hunter but never lost its zero.

[slow09]

In my view Vector optics scopes are not cheap crap as you put it. I have one on my trailsman and it is amazingly clear and has shot dead on since I got it about 1 year ago and I have only zeroed it once.
But if you still don't fancy one I'd go for the Simmons Whitetail Classic, brilliant scope and has taken lots of knocks on my hunter but never lost its zero.

My reasoning behind Vector is because I purchased one before and had to zero in almost every other time I shot and had generally crap sessions with it.

Now I intend to try out a better brand and slightly higher price to experiment.

[Wingnut.]

Thanks for that Severnsider.

I have measured the distance where I currently shoot:

54 feet / 16.5 metres / 18 yards

I have a break barrel rifle, being the BSA Meteor. I have been online reading and found that somewhere it says the 6-24x50 scope is too large for the rifle, so now I am wondering what kind of size I should actually look into ...

I am getting seriously into this, even though it's only targets, I like to be dead on with shots and accuracy.

There's no going back now you sound hooked! might aswell go the full hog and buy all the kit now because you'll end up buying it in the future

[tonyn]

I personally would be on the look out for a used leupold , i got a leupold 18-40 x 44 premier boosted scope for 350 second hand in brilliant condition , Ok the scope is about 15 years old i belive however the optical quality and turret mechanism is second to none , I have seen leupolds 6.5-0 mags going for 250 second hand well worth a thought

[100m airgun]

I think a Hawke Sidewinder Tactical gives good value for money if used for long range shooting. It is succesfully used in 100m matches overhere.

[slow09]

Many thanks for all replies.

I am still doing my research and trying out scopes ...

[james79]

you said you didnt want to buy cheap crap like smk well i have to say i got a smk 3-9x40 on my cometa and its a great scope can't fault it :D

[Phoenix-mk2]

try a MTC cobra, they are 3-9x44 with parallax and retail for around £60. But I find that with my meteor the iron (plastic) sights are good enough for the distances it's capable of shooting.

http://www.mtcoptics.co.uk/mtcScope_Cob.htm

[100m airgun]

Hi,

A Hawke Sidewinder TAC 30 (http://www.hawkeoptics.com/global/riflescopes/sidewinder_tactical/index.php)

can also be a good choice. I have many scopes and when you're looking for good quality for the price, this is one to consider.

[bikerx2000]

hawke sidwinder, there the nuts and top class glass for the money

[Jenny Dipple]

With the bsa scope rails a 4x32 should be ok at those ranges. Mega mag scopes do not work well at dawn and dusk, lamping 3x times works best

[Wingnut.]

l'm waiting for delivery of my new MTC Taipan 6x24 x56, looks great and so are the reviews but this might be a bit overkill for 16 meters

[bbs air]

get a second hand bushnell of here you won t go far wrong,

[beefhooked]

As the man above ;)

[Olliekooga]

Hi Guys
I have just bought a second hand AA TX200 from my local dealer. It came with a scope which I am having trouble with and I am looking for help/ inspiration/ rescue not necesarily in that order.

The scope is actually a rifle scope called a bushmaster BCD which stands for Bullett something something. Basically using readings on the scope ocular bell it acts as a range finder dependant on the quarry you have in the reticle. It works by adjusting two horizontal parralel lines to frame the sight picture.

No i dont get it either which is why I need HELP.

Yours in panic and frustration
Olliekooga

[18 Wheeler]

The short answer is forget that as a method of rangefinding.

They are designed to work with a target of known size. In the early days of FT (Field Target) shooting the kill zones on the targets were the same size.

Given the above condition, you adjust the magnification on the scope such that the target just fits between the two horizontal lines and then simply read off the distance to target.

Some scopes even had the top scope turret similarly marked, you would twiddle the turret and then the scope would be correctly adjusted to allow you to aim directly at the target.

The more modern way is to use a laser rangefinder (LRF). If shooting competitions they aren't allowed.

In FT high magnification scopes are used, these have very shallow depth of field and hence this means the focus mechanism can be used to accurately estimate range. +/- 1 yard @ 55 yards is not impossible.

In HFT no adjustment to the scope is allowed once the round has begun, making any of the above redundant as means of estimating range. There are various techniques to assist in range estimation, but that's a whole different debate.

HTH

[TopDog]

Hi Guys
I have just bought a second hand AA TX200 from my local dealer. It came with a scope which I am having trouble with and I am looking for help/ inspiration/ rescue not necesarily in that order.

The scope is actually a rifle scope called a bushmaster BCD which stands for Bullett something something. Basically using readings on the scope ocular bell it acts as a range finder dependant on the quarry you have in the reticle. It works by adjusting two horizontal parralel lines to frame the sight picture.

No i dont get it either which is why I need HELP.

Yours in panic and frustration
Olliekooga

I think this should have been a new thread!

ATVB
David

[Andy stevenson]

Try the hawke 10x42

[longrange]

try hwkeye dont think you can fault them for that sort of thing.i have the 3-9-50 on my 22rf lr and its never let me down. i have used them for years:)