Safety Warning

[svenhass]

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Today I received a rifle through the post from a fellow BBS member. Upon opening it I noticed that it had been sent cocked, unfortunately in my excitement I didn't bother to check if it was loaded. Without thinking I automatically pointed the gun in a safe direction (corner of room) and fired off the action resulting in a small pellet sized dent in the plaster/wallpaper :o and a very minor heart attack :eek: . Usually I am very aware of safety but today I let my guard down, luckily my subconsious was awake otherwise I may have had to fork out for a new TV/window etc and got the most serious dressing down ever from my wife when she got home.

I am very annoyed with myself at the moment, the more I think about the possible consequences the more it makes me cringe.

Please everyone remember if you ignore safety for a single second you could have to live with regret for a long time.

SAFETY FIRST,SAFETY SECOND, SAFETY ALWAYS.

Here endeth the sermon.

[Geordie]

:eek:

I'd be more pissed off at the person who sent a rifle through the post not only pressurised (assuming PCP - illegal anyway) but cocked/loaded :rolleyes:

[Gary Foster]

Christ!! You where very lucky, who the hell sent it to you in that condition?

[arjimlad]

I'm impressed that the bashing about the parcel must have received did not make it go off. Just think of the capital that the post office would have made out of this had it gone off and dented a van or worse, when Postcomm have stopped them refusing to carry guns etc.

Thanks for the warning.

Ten years ago I took a break barrel air rifle in to the gun shop for a service, and the owner opened it, a pellet flew out :eek: - days before, I had stuck one in to have it ready to hand for a magpie and forgotten all about it.

This was before we had kids around, and the gun was kept behind a wardrobe. I could have been prosecuted. Gave me a fright and made me more careful.

[svenhass]

I e-mailed the member to inform him of situation. He was very annoyed as he is very safety aware. He thinks the culprit was someone left in the room while he went to get a box to pack the gun in.

[RichardH]

Theres a very embarressed person (still :D ) on here who sent me an Fx2000 with one still in the spring loaded shuttle.

Just as you did I cycled the bolt pointed it at a wall and bang.

Thats two lucky escapes, I also dont think any of the PCP guns I've bought from here have EVER been sent empty.

Food for thought gentlemen

Richard

[Mike H]

I understand the safety warning bit .. but the whole world is now reading this thread :( More ammo for them me thinks ...
Mike.

[snock]

I think this could be made into a sticky.
Safety comes Before anything else when shooting, or doing anything for that matter.

Pete

[Northernspark]

He was very annoyed as he is very safety aware. He thinks the culprit was someone left in the room while he went to get a box to pack the gun in.

Yeah right.......................................... :rolleyes:

Steve

[svenhass]

He is a long standing respected/responsible member.I could tell by the tone of his e-mail that he was as shocked as me, I have no reason to disbelieve him.

[Trevor Delve]

Guilty as charged also

Webley Raider off . Ripped it out the box in my excitement and test fired it in the direction of the floor(ish)

1 new skirting board later i dunno who was more stupid, myself or the bloke that sent it cocked and loaded. Also had a spare pellet in the mag (2 Shot Raider)

[chris ballard]

****** hell...lucky man...but there but for the grace of...err...buddah go I :o

[dubworld]

I understand the safety warning bit .. but the whole world is now reading this thread :( More ammo for them me thinks ...
Mike.

LMAO

Think you need to relax a little otherwise it wont belong before all we will be discussing on here is the weather :rolleyes:

[gaz gun man]

:eek: close call mate

I'm always checking my rifles/pistols, even when I just have them out of the cabinet for abit of a drool ;)

I couldnt imagine sending a loading airgun through the post

[Steyr]

the finger of fate is on the hand of a blind man. Who knows who he will point at next.

[Mike H]

LMAO

Think you need to relax a little otherwise it wont belong before all we will be discussing on here is the weather :rolleyes:
Very relaxed mate, that's why I was wasn't having a go ... just making a suggestion. Carry on :)
Mike.

[wall90]

this has happend to me in a gun shop ,(the country store in sawston)(cambs).went in to see what second hand guns they had,tried a couple and blank fired them,then i saw an aa s200 ,177 with 10 shot mag,cocked rifle aimed at end of shop fired and small hole in wall.on inspection 2 more pellets in mag.will be a lot more aware in future.

[Samantha]

this has happend to me in a gun shop ,(the country store in sawston)(cambs).went in to see what second hand guns they had,tried a couple and blank fired them,then i saw an aa s200 ,177 with 10 shot mag,cocked rifle aimed at end of shop fired and small hole in wall.on inspection 2 more pellets in mag.will be a lot more aware in future.


One of our friends was demonstrating his S200 with 10 shot mag to his boss not knowing that somehow a pellet was still in the mag. It went off and hit the window with a bang. You seem to have to be particularly careful with this type of gun as our friend is an extremely experienced shooter and is very hot on safety.

[Micky Spillane]

What! Does nobody prove a weapon clear before handing it over? Standard procedure before giving/receiving a weapon is to remove magazine and work the action twice and hold open the action so the receiver is aware of the weapons state. Sorry folks but slapped wrists all round. One of the basic rules of safety "always be aware of the state of a weapon before giving it or receiving it.

[minibbb]

surely the only way to prove a PCP is to fire it safely into the floor? working the action twice would'nt help

[gaz gun man]

What! Does nobody prove a weapon clear before handing it over? Standard procedure before giving/receiving a weapon is to remove magazine and work the action twice and hold open the action so the receiver is aware of the weapons state. Sorry folks but slapped wrists all round. One of the basic rules of safety "always be aware of the state of a weapon before giving it or receiving it.


agree'd, but it is hard sometimes with a PCP.

a few months back (when we had snow) after a nights stalk, I gave my mates rimmy back to his dad at their front door (they live on the shoot) and told him the exact state of the rifle - mag out, empty chamber, bolt back.

always do, like when im handing an air rifle over to my dad, or mate - always tell them the state of the rifle.

[guybinks]

Simple,

treat every gun like it is loaded.

Assume nothing.

Glad nothing more than a dented floor / skirting board though!!!!!

[AirgunStan]

My policy is to assume that any gun is loaded until I've checked it.
And even when checked and known to be empty, it / they are never pointed at another person.

[Acenorth.]

Today I received a rifle through the post from a fellow BBS member. Upon opening it I noticed that it had been sent cocked, unfortunately in my excitement I didn't bother to check if it was loaded. Without thinking I automatically pointed the gun in a safe direction (corner of room) and fired off the action resulting in a small pellet sized dent in the plaster/wallpaper :o and a very minor heart attack :eek: .


I've seen you shoot Kev and I cant believe you hit anything.... :D :D :D :D

Ian :p

[Steyr]

Well life is a bugger isnt it. Having posted a thread about how fickle the finger of fate could be, it only pointed itself at me tonight.

Had a newbie down the club with his nice new rifle so I was setting up to run it over the chrono to make sure all was ok.

Some youngsters came in to shoot pistol and I broke off to sort them out.

Came back and picked up the rifle. Cycled the bolt to make sure it was clear and a .22 whizzed safely down range !!!!!!!!

Realized he had put a magazine in whilst I was sorting out the youngsters. He thought he was being helpful. Rifle was made safe and a gentle but pointed explanation given. I was using a combro too so equally glad I had unscrewed the silencer and aligned it via that method rather than peering down the barrel.

Incidentally, I agree that the action should be cycled at least 2 or 3 times. The reason is if two or more pellets are accidentally cycled into the barrel, the push of air may not be enough to clear it on a single cycle so I now cycle 2 or 3 times especially if someone has handed me a rifle.

I also listen to the sound as the latter gives off a definite and different report (or muted at least).

This is possible especially with a mag fed rifle. I have even seen a single shot with several up the spout and had to be rodded out to clear it.

Good shooting

[Micky Spillane]

Lessons learned all round I'd say. I'm just pleased that no injury has occured. I'm also proud that members are prepared to hold up their own errors for the good of all of us. IT HELPS US ALL

[Steyr]

Not half as pleased as me Micky

[svenhass]

I've seen you shoot Kev and I cant believe you hit anything.... :D :D :D :D

Ian :p

I didn't hit anything, I missed every breakable item in the room :rolleyes: :D :D

[Rapidnick]

One of our friends was demonstrating his S200 with 10 shot mag to his boss not knowing that somehow a pellet was still in the mag. It went off and hit the window with a bang. You seem to have to be particularly careful with this type of gun as our friend is an extremely experienced shooter and is very hot on safety.


Not wanting to be rude about your friend but clearly not THAT hot on safety! :)

[Paul_C]

I always remember my Grandad (the man responsible for getting me into shooting), he was in his back upstairs bedroom looking at a magpie that had landed in the back garden, he picked up an air gun that was too hand just to mess about and pretend to aim at it through a closed window, he pretended to shoot it and put a hole through the window :D :rolleyes: #

More recently when I was shooting my S400 in the back garden at home, my mum strolls over and asks if she can have a hold of my gun, I knew it wasn't loaded and she could do no damage with it so I handed it to her, first thing she did was point it at me :eek: que a bollocking from me!! :D