My permission letters

[Jackel]

FREE PEST CONTROL

Dear Sir/ Madam
Please allow me to introduce myself, my name is XXXX XXXXX, I am a XX years old air gun hunter living in the xxxxxx area. I am writing to you concerning any pest control problems you may have on your farm and farm buildings.

There are many species of pests including:

Feral Pigeons: In areas close to towns they may use nearby farm buildings and lofts for a night-time roost. Ferals carry lice and their excrement is both toxic and disease ridden including tuberculosis, encephalitis, lyme's disease (pigeon fanciers lung) paratyphoid, ornithosis, toxoplasmosis, and a type of flu. All these diseases are potently fatal they also cause untold crop damage.

Rats consume and contaminate feed as well as chew through electric cables and nest in the walls of buildings, silos and water tanks. They also carry a pretty nasty disease called Weil's disease which is life threatening.

Crows and magpies: These animals carry lice and a host of other parasites, they damage the nests of songbirds, by raiding the nests and eating the eggs. Crows have also been known to attack newborn lambs.

Rabbits can dig up your paddock causing holes which stock may injure themselves, they can also burrow under the footings of buildings causing them to be unstable. Rabbits have been known to consume considerable amounts of feed laid out for stocks in paddocks.

The above lists the more common species but there are also jays, jackdaws, rooks, collard dove, grey squirrel, magpies, mink,and foxes.

I am fully licensed and a responsible shooter, and an active member of the Cleveland gun club, I would be willing to sign a total disclaimer for any injury that I occur whilst on the property.

I shoot with a whisper-quiet air rifle, but I also have the option of using an rimfire rifle, or shotguns, that are all able to humanely dispatch these pests safely, and especially the fox.

I am a courteous, patient and intelligent person by nature, always willing to learn, and follow instructions to the letter. I ask nothing in return for my services other than a continuous right to hunt the property and a friendly wave as I come and go.

I will dispose of all pests off the property and any quality game such as rabbit or pigeon first offered the property owner.

Thank you for giving me a little of your time, I do apologise to any anti hunters I may have inadvertently sent this letter to, but rest assured I am doing my best to actively promote safe hunting and removal of pest species.

If you are interested in my services please write to me at the address above, call me on xxxxxxxxxxx (home) xxxxxxxxxxx (mobile) or EMAIL me at xxxxxxxxxxxx thank you, I hope to hear from you soon.



Pest removal disclaimer

This document is to certify that ____________,of ________________, has been given permission by the
owners of __________________________ to hunt on their property for pest species such as
______________________________________________.

All hunting will be carried out with a _______________________________________

And all care taken to ensure safe shooting practices whether in open countryside or around buildings and structures.

All hunting will take place between the hours of ______________, and __________on days deemed appropriate by the owners, with a "double check " phone call made the night before any proposed hunt.

All pest species eradicated will be removed and disposed off of the property by the hunter and regular reports on pest removal success forwarded to the owners.

No payment is asked for in return for these services. However a signature on the following disclaimer would be appreciated to cover both parties in the event of damage to property, injury, or death.

I, XXXX XXXXX, having been given permission to hunt _______________________, do hereby renounce and
relinquish any claim to my personal injury; my death and whilst on the property for the purpose of pest
removal.

Signed: ____________________ date_________________

I, _______________________________________, having given XXXX XXXXX permission to hunt___________________________ accept all terms and conditions of this disclaimer and agreements entered
into forthwith.

Signed: ____________________ Date__________________


Dear Course Manager

It may be of interest to you that my father and I offer a free pest control service to golf clubs and to farmers, helping to remove vermin (rats, crows,magpies, rabbits, etc) discretely and quietly as not to offend, usually using standard air rifles, however,we are both shotgun certificate holders. I also hold
a firearms certificate for rimfire rifles. We are both members of the air rifle shooters association
with a personal liability of two million pounds.

If you were to use our services all that we would require from you is written approval stating that we have authority to shoot on your land.

I hope that you will give this letter consideration and remind you that a rabbit problem is a costly one if left unchecked.

Please feel free to contact me on my E-mail address, which is xxxxxxxxxxxxx or on the above phone
numbers.

I thank you for taking the time to read this letter.

Yours faithfully




Tel xxxxxxxx
Mobile xxxxxxxx
E-mail xxxxxxxxxxx


Dear Sir
I am writing to you with regarding vermin shooting rights in the Cleveland area. I know that most estates have their own shooting syndicates that control the vermin. If possible could send me details or a map of
your boundary's so as not to approach your tenants?



Yours thankfully




The first one I normally send to farmers, 2nd one is a disclaimer, 3rd one I send to golf courses and the 4th one I send to shooting estates or landowners

Just chop and change these as you see fit as a template

Sorry about the text just cut and pasted from my email folder(now altered)

[Roys]

Starling's are a no no.

[Jackel]

Oop's :o :o :o Deleted

[Mikey Boy]

very kind of you:)

ATVB Mikey

ps. SOME people will need to change the Cleveland bit also;)


....happy?:rolleyes:

[Jackel]

very kind of you:)

ATVB Mikey

ps. people will need to change the Cleveland bit also;)



Picky picky:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Cheers mate

[Pavel]

ps. people will need to change the Cleveland bit also;)


Not all of us. :cool:

Cheers, Carl. ;)

[Jackel]

I know bud;) Just having 20 or so pm a day for copys of the letter I thought I'd just stick them on here and people can help themselves

Its all about helping one another:cool: :cool: :cool:

[MattLin]

FREE PEST CONTROL

and an active member of the Cleveland gun clubaltered)

Theres a Cleveland gun club? :confused:


And, cheers for the letter :cool:

[Jackel]

Theres a Cleveland gun club? :confused:


And, cheers for the letter :cool:

Yes its a shotgun club at stanghow

[MattLin]

Yes its a shotgun club at stanghow

Ahhh

Big mean firearms :o :(

[marty]

Nice letter .. any cash in the bank Carl :)

[Jackel]

Nice letter .. any cash in the bank Carl :)


Will check today and get back to you

[gunpowerchris]

thanks for sending the letters mate much appriated

[Marko]

Nice letter mate, was gonna knock one up but now I don't have to!!

Appreciate you posting the letter on the site, dashed decent of you.

Mark

[peter pounds]

I cant see any mention of being with the BASC, which I hope you are. I would definately mention this and that you are fully insured.

[johnbaz]

QUOTE

"Rabbits can dig up your paddock causing holes which stock may injure them-selves; they can also bury around the footings of buildings causing them to be unstable. Rabbits have been known to consume considerable portions of feed laid out for stocks in paddocks.

hi jackel, a minor ammendment to you excellent letter,

"bury"- should read "burrow"

very minor but could make a difference.

regards, john.

jeez, i'm such a pedant:eek:

btw, the cheque went in the post yesterday (thought i posted this earlier but it wasn't there, i must've forgotten to press the 'submit reply' button:rolleyes:

[Grasshopper]

Thanks Jackel much appreciated.

I was going to ask that too Matt :D

Regards

Chris

[EddieP]

Well if we're being picky.....

When you say 'potently fatal', do you mean 'potentially'?:D :D

[Jackel]

Hence the chop and change statement at the bottom I did these letters about 3 yrs ago and havn't needed them as I gained a shoot fairly quickly

[Jackel]

I cant see any mention of being with the BASC, which I hope you are. I would definately mention this and that you are fully insured.

I have this in my letter for golf courses We are both members of the air rifle shooters association with a personnel liability of two million pounds

As most of the farmers know I'm not an idiot they are happy with the disclaimer saying if I am injured I'll not sue them getting the basc is just something I never got round to signing up for

[supersportg]

Thanks Jackel, this has saved me a lot of stress letters arn't my strong point
top gob:D

[mr_colt]

Excellent letter but; the disclaimer on the permission contract need to be specific about who it indemnifies (landowner or tenant, farm workers employed by them etc.)

Otherwise you are basicly indemnifing your own accident and injury insurance that probably comes with the air-rifle shooters association (I know my BASC insurance covers it.) Which would be a bind if u slipped and broke something major while out doing vermin control; you are stopping yourself claiming against your own insurance which can be a great help if the injury incapacitates you for several months and you can't work.

Also if you were injured as a result of some anti who has tresspassed onto the land to try and disrupt legal pest control then; neither the landowner or yourself would want you to sign away the right to sue the trespassing anti who has commited a criminal offence (aggrivated tresspass) from the moment he stepped onto the land with the intent to stop you shooting.

If a trespassing-anti assualted or otherwise caused me to become injured during my duties when I used to do pest-control; I would certainly want to get compensation for the bodily harm they may have inflicted on me.

Just my thoughts thats all.

mr_colt

P.S: Have you checked the "Airgun shooter assocation" will cover you for public liability while using firearms and shot guns?

[MattW]

These permission letters seem all well and good, but I'm afraid I know what my farmer would say if I presented him with a load of official looking documents to read and sign - it'd be something along the lines of "you've got to be **********ing joking!" followed by "you'd better look elsewhere for somewhere to shoot". If I also started telling my farmer about all the various types of pests and the damage they could cause, he'd be (rightly) insulted and tell me to p*ss off.

We have a very informal arrangement:

We've checked each other out face to face.
He's seen my insurance.
We have each other's phone numbers (including my mobile)
I phone before I go onto his land (so that he knows I'm there and not some trespasser he has to worry about)
I stay out of any fields he's working in.

We certainly haven't signed any agreements, waivers, disclaimers or other made-up legal sounding documents (has anyone actually had a lawyer cast his eye over one of these 'permission' letters - would they have any legal weight?).

It's an entirely different case if you are working in a professional capacity, but for us unpaid hobbyists, I'd think carefully before you alienate a hard won land owner with too much officialdom and 'teaching him to suck eggs'.

Just my humble opinion

Matt

[Dan D]

Thanks Jackal

I have been in the process of putting some letters together & none sound quite as good as yours...:( Infact they're rubbish.

Time to get copy & pasting.

Thanks mate.

Dan

[Renegade Master]

Jackel

Cheers for the permision slip, got it signed Sunday so now ready to do some recon before I begin hunting.

Cheers mate

Dan

[Jackel]

These permission letters seem all well and good, but I'm afraid I know what my farmer would say if I presented him with a load of official looking documents to read and sign - it'd be something along the lines of "you've got to be ******************ing joking!" followed by "you'd better look elsewhere for somewhere to shoot". If I also started telling my farmer about all the various types of pests and the damage they could cause, he'd be (rightly) insulted and tell me to p*ss off.

We have a very informal arrangement:

We've checked each other out face to face.
He's seen my insurance.
We have each other's phone numbers (including my mobile)
I phone before I go onto his land (so that he knows I'm there and not some trespasser he has to worry about)
I stay out of any fields he's working in.

We certainly haven't signed any agreements, waivers, disclaimers or other made-up legal sounding documents (has anyone actually had a lawyer cast his eye over one of these 'permission' letters - would they have any legal weight?).

It's an entirely different case if you are working in a professional capacity, but for us unpaid hobbyists, I'd think carefully before you alienate a hard won land owner with too much officialdom and 'teaching him to suck eggs'.

Just my humble opinion

Matt

Thanks for your opinion I shall file it in draw B1n

[bigsid40]

I Thank You Sir:)

[MattW]

Thanks for your opinion I shall file it in draw B1n

File it whichever drawer you like, it'd be boring if we just had one point of view though wouldn't it?

cheers
Matt

[john-b]

some interesting views flying round all with merit its horses for courses.

I will pm you later matt thanks for the offer. The one at the top of this thread looks like a good one to send to a golf course etc

Are golf courses any good for rabbits and stuff?

Excuse my ignorance but hey if i dont ask i wont find out :D

[DUCATICRASHER]

FREE PEST CONTROL

Dear Sir/ Madam
Please allow me to introduce myself, my name is XXXX XXXXX, I am a XX years old air gun hunter living in the xxxxxx area. I am writing to you concerning any pest control problems you may have on your farm and farm buildings.

There are many species of pests including:

Feral Pigeons, in areas close to towns they may use nearby farm buildings and lofts for a night-time roost. Feral's carry lice and their excrement is both toxic and disease ridden including tuberculosis, encephalitis, lyme's disease (pigeon fanciers lung) paratyphoid, ornithosis, toxoplasmosis, and a type of flu all these diseases are potently fatal they also cause untold crop damage.

Rats, which consume and contaminate feed as well as chew through electric cables and nest in the walls of buildings, silos and water tanks. They also carry a pretty nasty disease called weil's disease which is life threatening

Crows and magpies, these animals carry lice and a host of other parasites, they damage the nests of songbirds, by raiding the nests and eating the eggs. Crows have also been known to attack new born lambs.

Rabbits can dig up your paddock causing holes which stock may injure them-selves; they can also bury around the footings of buildings causing them to be unstable. Rabbits have been known to consume considerable portions of feed laid out for stocks in paddocks.

The above list is the more common species but there are also jays, jackdaws, rooks, collard dove, grey squirrel, magpies, mink,and foxes.

I am fully licensed and a responsible shooter, and an active member of the Cleveland gun club, I would be willing to sign a total disclaimer for any injury that I occur whilst on the property.

I shoot with a whisper quiet air rifle, but I also have the option of using an rimfire rifle, or shotguns, that are all able to humanely dispatch these pests safely.

I am a courteous, patient and intelligent person by nature, always willing to learn, and follow instructions to the letter. I ask nothing in return for my services other than a continuous right to hunt the property and a friendly wave as I come and go.

I will dispose of all pests off the property and any quality game such as rabbit or pigeon first offered the property owner.

Thank-you for giving me a little of your time, I do apologise to any anti hunters I may have inadvertently sent this letter to,but rest assured I am doing my best to actively promote safe hunting and removal of pest species.

If you are interested in my services please write to me at the address above, call me on xxxxxxxxxxx (home) xxxxxxxxxxx (mobile) or EMAIL me at xxxxxxxxxxxx thank-you, I hope to hear from you soon.



Pest removal disclaimer

This document is to certify that ____________,of ________________, has been given permission by the
owners of __________________________ to hunt on their property for pest species such as
______________________________________________.

All hunting will be carried out with a _______________________________________

And all care taken to ensure safe shooting practices whether in open countryside or around buildings and structures.

All hunting will tale place between the hours of ______________, and __________on days deeded appropriate by the owners, with a "double check " phone call made the night before any proposed hunt.

All pest species eradicated will be removed and disposed of off the property by the hunter and regular reports on pest removal success forwarded to the owners.

No payment is asked for in return for these services. However a signature on the following disclaimer would be appreciated to cover both parties in the event of damage to property, injury, or death.

I, XXXX XXXXX, having been given permission to hunt _______________________, do hereby renounce and
relinquish any claim to my personnel injury; or my death, while on the property for the purpose of pest
removal.

Signed: ____________________ date_________________

I, _______________________________________, having given XXXX XXXXX permission to hunt___________________________ accept all terms and conditions of this disclaimer and agreements entered
into forthwith.

Signed: ____________________ Date__________________


Dear Course Manager

It may be of interest to you that my father and I offer a free pest control service to golf clubs and to farmers, helping to remove vermin (rats, crows,magpies, rabbits, etc) discretely and quietly as not to offend, usually using standard air rifles, however,we are both shotgun certificate holders. I also hold
a firearms certificate for rimfire rifles. We are both members of the air rifle shooters association
with a personnel liability of two million pounds.

If you were to use our services all that we wouldrequire from you is written approval stating that we have authority to shoot on your land.

I hope that you will give this letter consideration and remind you that a rabbit problem is a costly one if left to it's own devices.

Please feel free to contact me on my E-mail address, which is xxxxxxxxxxxxx or on the above phone
numbers.

I thank you for taking the time to read this letter.

Yours faithfully




Tel xxxxxxxx
Mobile xxxxxxxx
E-mail xxxxxxxxxxx
Dear Sir
I am writing to you with regarding vermin shooting rights in the Cleveland area. I know that most estates have their own shooting syndicates that control the vermin. If possible could send me details or a map of
your boundary's so as not to approach your tenants?



Yours thankfully




The first one I normally send to farmers, 2nd one is a disclaimer, 3rd one I send to golf courses and the 4th one I send to shooting estates or landowners

Just chop and change these as you see fit as a template

Sorry about the text just cut and paste'd from my email folder(now altered)

GET ORFF MY LAND!

[KRONK]

Hi ade do you think would be some help to you?

Regards
Rich.:confused:

[snock]

FREE PEST CONTROL

Dear Sir/ Madam
Please allow me to introduce myself, my name is XXXX XXXXX, I am a XX years old air gun hunter living in the xxxxxx area. I am writing to you concerning any pest control problems you may have on your farm and farm buildings.

There are many species of pests including:

Feral Pigeons: In areas close to towns they may use nearby farm buildings and lofts for a night-time roost. Ferals carry lice and their excrement is both toxic and disease ridden including tuberculosis, encephalitis, lyme's disease (pigeon fanciers lung) paratyphoid, ornithosis, toxoplasmosis, and a type of flu. All these diseases are potently fatal they also cause untold crop damage.

Rats consume and contaminate feed as well as chew through electric cables and nest in the walls of buildings, silos and water tanks. They also carry a pretty nasty disease called Weil's disease which is life threatening.

Crows and magpies: These animals carry lice and a host of other parasites, they damage the nests of songbirds, by raiding the nests and eating the eggs. Crows have also been known to attack newborn lambs.

Rabbits can dig up your paddock causing holes which stock may injure themselves, they can also burrow under the footings of buildings causing them to be unstable. Rabbits have been known to consume considerable amounts of feed laid out for stocks in paddocks.

The above lists the more common species but there are also jays, jackdaws, rooks, collard dove, grey squirrel, magpies, mink,and foxes.

I am fully licensed and a responsible shooter, and an active member of the Cleveland gun club, I would be willing to sign a total disclaimer for any injury that I occur whilst on the property.

I shoot with a whisper-quiet air rifle, but I also have the option of using an rimfire rifle, or shotguns, that are all able to humanely dispatch these pests safely, and especially the fox.

I am a courteous, patient and intelligent person by nature, always willing to learn, and follow instructions to the letter. I ask nothing in return for my services other than a continuous right to hunt the property and a friendly wave as I come and go.

I will dispose of all pests off the property and any quality game such as rabbit or pigeon first offered the property owner.

Thank you for giving me a little of your time, I do apologise to any anti hunters I may have inadvertently sent this letter to, but rest assured I am doing my best to actively promote safe hunting and removal of pest species.

If you are interested in my services please write to me at the address above, call me on xxxxxxxxxxx (home) xxxxxxxxxxx (mobile) or EMAIL me at xxxxxxxxxxxx thank you, I hope to hear from you soon.



Pest removal disclaimer

This document is to certify that ____________,of ________________, has been given permission by the
owners of __________________________ to hunt on their property for pest species such as
______________________________________________.

All hunting will be carried out with a _______________________________________

And all care taken to ensure safe shooting practices whether in open countryside or around buildings and structures.

All hunting will take place between the hours of ______________, and __________on days deemed appropriate by the owners, with a "double check " phone call made the night before any proposed hunt.

All pest species eradicated will be removed and disposed off of the property by the hunter and regular reports on pest removal success forwarded to the owners.

No payment is asked for in return for these services. However a signature on the following disclaimer would be appreciated to cover both parties in the event of damage to property, injury, or death.

I, XXXX XXXXX, having been given permission to hunt _______________________, do hereby renounce and
relinquish any claim to my personal injury; my death and whilst on the property for the purpose of pest
removal.

Signed: ____________________ date_________________

I, _______________________________________, having given XXXX XXXXX permission to hunt___________________________ accept all terms and conditions of this disclaimer and agreements entered
into forthwith.

Signed: ____________________ Date__________________


Dear Course Manager

It may be of interest to you that my father and I offer a free pest control service to golf clubs and to farmers, helping to remove vermin (rats, crows,magpies, rabbits, etc) discretely and quietly as not to offend, usually using standard air rifles, however,we are both shotgun certificate holders. I also hold
a firearms certificate for rimfire rifles. We are both members of the air rifle shooters association
with a personal liability of two million pounds.

If you were to use our services all that we would require from you is written approval stating that we have authority to shoot on your land.

I hope that you will give this letter consideration and remind you that a rabbit problem is a costly one if left unchecked.

Please feel free to contact me on my E-mail address, which is xxxxxxxxxxxxx or on the above phone
numbers.

I thank you for taking the time to read this letter.

Yours faithfully




Tel xxxxxxxx
Mobile xxxxxxxx
E-mail xxxxxxxxxxx


Dear Sir
I am writing to you with regarding vermin shooting rights in the Cleveland area. I know that most estates have their own shooting syndicates that control the vermin. If possible could send me details or a map of
your boundary's so as not to approach your tenants?



Yours thankfully




The first one I normally send to farmers, 2nd one is a disclaimer, 3rd one I send to golf courses and the 4th one I send to shooting estates or landowners

Just chop and change these as you see fit as a template

Sorry about the text just cut and pasted from my email folder(now altered)

I've corrected some spelling errors and punctuation, Carl.
I'm a bit anal like that; I think the first letter you send the landowners ought to be 100% correct so that it reflects you as a person.

Cheers, mate.
;)

[Tenuc]

Thanks for these Jackel, I used the one for farmers yesterday and everything is now legit on my new permission...:D

Excellent stuff...:cool:

[Waddo]

At risk of a flaming, the final letter also needs the sentence changed slightly:
" If possible could send me details or a map of
your boundaries, so as not to approach your tenants?"

[treeson]

Just wondering if my popular Shooting Permission Slips are too complicated and a simpler version was needed? :rolleyes:

Happy Shooting
James

[Jackel]

Just wondering if my popular Shooting Permission Slips are too complicated and a simpler version was needed? :rolleyes:

Happy Shooting
James

No Idea on that score bud I Put these up ages ago due to getting about 30 pm's a day asking for them

Its just a stock letter like yours(which is very good btw) for people to chop and change as they see fit

[Friday]

They both are very helpful treeson Shooting Permission Slips are great and easy to carry about in your back packet, and have all the relevant info on the slip. The Jackel permission letter is all good as it is getting harder to get shooting permission and any help is much appreciated.

Many thanks

Regards

Friday

[THE CHAIR ISVC]

Nice sound letter.BASC addition is a good idea I believe we may soon have to do "Risk Assessments" to cover our shooting ground????
Stay happy and keep Shooting.
The Chair

[froggy43215]

Thats fantastic! I think you have just saved me atleast two hours writing these. And I think there a bit better than the ones I could have cobbled together. Interestingly enough my last peice of shooting came about after puting a free pest control service on freecycle. I had a reply within a couple of hours from a nice lady who had a rabbit problem in her paddock.

[gustav]

Great stuff, thanks for posting these. I think the mention of BASC membership and insurance is important.

Anyone in the Reading/West Berks area need another hand to help with pest control shooting? I'm new to the area. Have Gun, Will Travel.

[gustav]

Can the leaseholder alone grant permission for shooting? Or does the owner of the land have to assent as well?

[Jackel]

Can the leaseholder alone grant permission for shooting? Or does the owner of the land have to assent as well?

I believe the lease holder also has the right to grant permission,but always best to check

[robsexysam]

just for your info, as of 18th feb 2008, the JAY is no longer on the pest list,

[marty]

just for your info, as of 18th feb 2008, the JAY is no longer on the pest list,

Always been a bit tricky this one, its long been regarded as an agricultural pest but not in the towns or cities so you had to be careful where you targeted it..i guess this ends the dilemma

Martin

[madzook]

great letter m8 :)
im sure many people have used this and many still will continue to use it with great success i will also be giving it a try after many years since i gave up shooting but now getting back in to it :)

cheers

andrew:)

[gav80uk]

Hi all,

I’m interested in knowing if anybody has actually got any reply’s and more interestingly achieved permission to shoot on land from just sending letters out like this one?

Cheers

Gav

[leswhinn]

Hi Gav,
After looking at a lot of info on most sites i made a flyer using MS Publisher,
and Posted it to 4 Small holders/Land owners and Farmers,
a few days later i got a phone call while walking through town,
a nice gent introduced himself and asked if i would like to drop in to talk about pest and vermin control :eek: :eek: :D i could not believe it :eek:
so i contained myself and spoke to him and agreed then we made an apointment to meet,
2 days later i was sat in a very nice big house drinking coffee and speaking to Mr & Mrs Dixon about what i had to offer them in the pest and vermin control stakes, they then agreed to me taking up the appointment and i've never looked back :D Loads of Rabbits, Woodies, corvids etc,
their land is on the edge of a golf coarse which i also have rights on and also the neighbours on the other side of the Dixons,
The Mr & Mrs Dixon are very large Share holders of Yates wine lodges and have been for decades,(He's a retired Solicitor)
i then had 2 other calls from Farmers-near Leyland Lancs and i now look after their property too,
So-
So long as you get you're letters/Flyers right and go to meet the Land owners/Farmers like you are going to an interview and conduct yourself accordingly then there should be no problem,
IMO they Do work, some of the Land owners/farmers don't trust people and it is very hard to convince them-But you've got to try your hardest to let them know you are not just messing about and you Know what you are doing/talking about,
Be Calm and Polite at All times,
Worked for me :)
Very best regards,
Les ;)

[bobbyb]

Starting with farms closest to my house i posted six letters and four to livery yards and stables not heard anything
more letters bigger radius and hope

[leswhinn]

Starting with farms closest to my house i posted six letters and four to livery yards and stables not heard anything
more letters bigger radius and hope

I Wish you the very best of Luck bobbyb :)
Just keep trying hard and if you don't hear owt in a month re-deliver to the same ones again for the last time-
you never know they might have misplaced it and lost your number :rolleyes:
Don't let it get you down if you don't hear from anyone :( Keep the faith :D
IT WILL HAPPEN SOON :)
atb,
Les ;)

[bobbyb]

I Wish you the very best of Luck bobbyb :)
Just keep trying hard and if you don't hear owt in a month re-deliver to the same ones again for the last time-
you never know they might have misplaced it and lost your number :rolleyes:
Don't let it get you down if you don't hear from anyone :( Keep the faith :D
IT WILL HAPPEN SOON :)
atb,
Les ;)

you wishing me luck Les worked,the postman brought a positive response from one of the largest land owners in the area :D early days but aleast a reply..
so maybe an edited ask for permission letter does work:D:D:D:D:D
THANKS LES

[leswhinn]

That’s Brilliant :D :cool: :D
Don’t keep them waiting long to hear from you –
Make an appointment to meet them and discuss what is expected from you and what you can offer them in return,
Make sure you can answer All the question they throw at you - read up on Pest and Vermin and the damage they cause- take with you 2 permission forms –
A copy for them to sign and date and 0ne for you to sign and date in case you are ever stopped by the police,
You will also have to take your BASA or BASC insurance and make sure you show it to them,
If you are shooting Corvids download and print off the licences to shoot them,
Just make sure you have every angle covered and everything will be OK for you
I’ll be keeping everything crossed for you m8 - Very best of luck again :)
Kindest Regards,
Les ;)
Forgot to add-i also pointed out that i would report back any broken fences/Damage to the farmer/land owners property
and offer to repair any i came across and if any help around the property was needed i would be very willing to assist,
I would also be a Deterrent to Trespassers and unauthorised shooters, in other words act as a form of security
i think this is another thing you can offer them for allowing you to have the Freedom of their land-TIT FOR TAT

[bobbyb]

Thanks Les and good advice for anyone starting out :)

[connorward46]

execellent mate, thanks alot:D

[in-my-sight]

Permission to Shoot

I (name)………………………… of (farm) ………………………………………

In my capacity as, Landowner, Tenant, Estate Manager, Game Keeper.

Address …………………………………………
…………………………………………
…………………………………………
…………………………………………
Postcode …………………………………………

Telephone No ………………………………. Mobile No …………………………

Authorise, ######## and his nominated associates, to shoot and remove VERMIN / GAME as detailed below on my land as described. The boundaries for this activity will be clearly shown on the map attached.

1. Additional shooters are ONLY permitted when accompanied by the above named person or instructed by same.

2. Lamping is / is not permitted

3. This authority remains in force until terminated by myself or appointed agent.

PERMITTED QUARRY

ALL TYPES OF VERMIN including
Wood pigeon, Ferals etc
Rabbit
Fox

ALL TYPES OF CORVIDS including

Crows, Rooks, Jays and Magpies
GAME (In Season)
Pheasant
Partridge
Duck
Geese
Deer …... Muntjac .….. Roe ….. Fallow…..

Disclaimer

We expect the undersigned to behave in a safe and responsible manner at
All times and respect our wishes and interests. We, the Landowners/tenants take no responsibility for the actions of the undersigned.

Signed ………………………………………..

Print ………………………………….
Dated …………………………………………

[C3PO_1]

Worth too designing and distributing your own "business" card: here's mine I use, just fill in the appropriate bits:

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s173/C3PO_05/template.jpg

[Wildkarde]

Jackel,

I would like to thank you for your assistance with the letter; I used an edited version and sent them off.

I have just received a reply granting me permission to shoot on a local golf course.

Surprising what you get when you ask !!

Best regards

Wildkarde

[Kaya]

Hi all,

These are really useful cheers :) great forum btw way..

is it normal to offer services for free? i know i need permission slips to satify the law / questions fair enough, i also am happy to get a few rabbits and woodys for the pot. But if i'm providing a pest control service i'd expect somthing in return.

I used to shoot wedding (photography) then people starting shootong them for less then 500 quid and even for free - it near crippled the industry sector. Wouldn't it be better to charge per pelt as it were? or is there more hassle and laws to contend with?

Great thread - learned a lot thanks :)

[leswhinn]

Hi all,

These are really useful cheers :) great forum btw way..

is it normal to offer services for free? i know i need permission slips to satify the law / questions fair enough, i also am happy to get a few rabbits and woodys for the pot. But if i'm providing a pest control service i'd expect somthing in return.
I used to shoot wedding (photography) then people starting shootong them for less then 500 quid and even for free - it near crippled the industry sector. Wouldn't it be better to charge per pelt as it were? or is there more hassle and laws to contend with?

Great thread - learned a lot thanks :)
Hi Kaya,
You Do get something in return :( :confused:
You get All you Shoot to take home and eat, give to others or sell to butchers
You get permission to go on land beloning to others free of charge to do your shooting without being bothered by others and all the enjoyment from this,
you also need Insurance incase of any damage/injury to protect you, the public and the farmer/land owner,
if you try charging you will have to declare it as an extra income,
Permissions will be few and far between but someone may pay you-Who knows?
this is just a quick answer but i'm sure someone else will let you know more,
atb,
Les ;)

[Kaya]

Hi Les,

Fair play, i'm not disagreeing with the system, just wondered how it all added up. I thought there be a few valid reasons, it's just that personally i'd just use a straight permissions slip. i wouldn't want to offer "pest control" per se - i'd probablly just end up shooting cockroaches (although nice fried with a dab of brandy butter i believe!!) i'd rather choose my quarry lol :)

Oblivious if someone was kind enough to let one there land and they asked me for a hand with some rats / squirrels etc i'd gladly oblige.

[radicalry00]

I posted 6 copies of this letter off yesterday evening. Just local farms for now so I will see if I get any replies. :) If not, I shall have to widen my search!

Thanks for the template Jackel.

[PeteB]

I posted this on another section, but I will say it again here,

Thanks Carl (Jackel). Your shooting permission letter secured me a shoot a few weeks ago.

I actually emailed a copy to the estate manager :) The wonders of modern technology eh!

[AirgunStan]

A bit too long - needs to be cut down.

atb
Stan.

[Jackel]

A bit too long - needs to be cut down.

atb
Stan.

These are only a guide to help you write your own

[othickman]

Thanks, this will be very useful ... but does anyone know how I could find out who owns what land without spending a fortune (some internet sites will tell you who owns a field for something in the range of £50!!)

[trc007]

i too have wondered how you find out who owns land and where it is etc. anyone?

[Jackel]

land registry at the town hall

But a quicker way is to go drinking in a pub where farmers go and buy them a pint,,,you'll find out all sorts

[Noonie038]

Greetings to you all, my name is Sean and i've been shooting since the age of 13 which was over 30 years ago !! I got into air rifles back in 02 when i borrowed a mates TX200 for a rat problem at home and i was hooked!!:
Right that's the intro taken care of,
If you're passing the fields and farmers are working why not stop and have a chat you'd be surprised what can materialise from a conversation, all my land here came about as i spoke directly to a, the landowner as he walked his dog and b, a bloke pulled into the field taking notes and making calls from his 4x4, he turned out to be the farmer and he gave permission and 4 fields there and then:D So when i'm not out shooting the land i'm walking the dog and doing a recce;)