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cliveward
09-12-2006, 07:44 PM
Hi All,

Finally got round to trying out my new .177 HW100K today, only been sat in the box under my desk for 5 or 6 weeks...been rather busy to say the least.

Just to put this review in perspective for all you serious Airgun enthusiasts reading....I'm not...lol...I'm primarily a shotgun, rimfire/centre fire shooter, but since a lot of my customers use my products on air rifles I thought I'd better get one. I started with an S200 which was very good but then the bug bit I guess and I wanted a more complete package for hunting.

Having now used an air rifle properly for a while, I find it an invaluable tool for clearing ferals from buildings and bunnies in more geographicly challenged areas where anything else would be unsafe or undesirable.

So this review is from a hunting perspective and not a target one.

First impressions are that the gun is very well made and the stock is a nice matt walnut thumbhole affair. The gun came with all the required bits and pieces for filling and 2 x 14 shot magazines as it should.

I fitted my simmons 1.5-5x20 scope using low QR burris rings with my 3/8"-weaver low profile adapters on the receiver. Some people have commented that they dislike the thumbhole stock but don't let it put you off. The gun comes up to the shoulder and feels perfectly balanced in any shooting position and the cheek weld with a low mounted scope is more like a shotgun type fit...spot on.

Filling was no problem either, just remove the plug and insert the filling probe. I use a hand pump and due to the reasonably small air cylinder...filling, even from empty to 200 bar was no huge chore.

Loading the magazines is easy...a bit like a large version of the umarex CO2 pistol magazines, but unlike the CO2 pistols the pellets are tranferred into the chamber of the barrell before firing. There is an o-ring on the outside of the mag to retain the pellets securely via the waist and an index mark on the outside of the magazine.

Loading the magazine into the rifle was again easy. Pull back the cocking lever and magazine latch, insert magazine and push magazine latch forward. rotate magazine by hand to get the index mark to a convenient location and then push the cocking lever forward to chamber the first pellet. The design of the Weihrauch magazine system makes it impossible to load more than one pellet into the breech. The action also features a safety catch on the right hand side.

I got a rough zero 1st at 14 yards with a couple of pellets, and then moved back to 35 yards.

The first things that struck me were how very good the trigger was and how quiet the gun was. From my firing point, all I could hear was the 'tink' of the hammer dropping.

The target was a 3/4" square of black gaffer tape on a white background. Just for fun I shot the first 6 shot group on 2.5x mag as apparently with an air rifle you can't hit anything at low mag. That group measured 1/2" centre to centre :rolleyes: then for the second group I lavished myself with the luxury of 4x mag and that 6 shot group was one perfect hole, probably just big enough to poke a pencil through :D . The simmons scope has a pretty thick cross hair so I left the mag on 4x so that at least some of the target will be visible at the longer air gun ranges. A few minor adjustments and a few more shots and it was spot on dead centre at 35 yards and single hole grouping. I did a bit more paper punching till I really got bored and the reservoir gauge and shots indicated the power was just starting to drop off. This took 56 shots or 4 magazines worth.

I refilled the reservoir which topping up was very easy, I would say about 50% more work than the S200 I had previously...and grabbed a combination spinner target and set that at 45 yards.

As a guess for hold over I aimed for the top of the 1" spinner and rang it every time for a whole magazine. To stave off the boredom again I dispensed with the rest (lol it's just too easy shooting this rifle prone from a rest as I had been doing, obviously to zero it in). I shot another few magazines at the 1" spinner prone unsupported and kneeling and only missed a few times. Not bad with only 100 pellets through the rifle.

The pellets I used are JSB exacts, good job they work well in the rifle as I still have a few thousand of them left :D .

From 1st impressions I'm very pleased with the rifle...but then for nigh on £700 I expect to be. It does everything I expected it to and took a while choosing. It's compact, quiet, excellent trigger, has a more target orientated stock, multi shot, decent shot count and unobscured top rail for mounting day and night scopes.


Cheers





Clive

pets
13-12-2006, 12:49 AM
made intresting reading. i myself have gone off HW's due to the anti tamper messures introduced. i like to stay within the law. :D

good review all the same.

:D

cliveward
15-12-2006, 01:47 PM
Glad you found it interesting. Like I said I'm not a 'real' airgun enthusiast so I'm not too bothered about not being able to adjust power levels.

So anyway on to the developments so far...

Most of my shooting is done at night so the gun was always destined to have a Night Vision scope mounted on it for the majority of the time. I have fitted weaver base adapters at strategic points along the action and Burris QR mounts on the day scope so that I can interchange day or night scopes quickly without loss of zero if required

Now being the run up to Christmas we are very busy and stocks are starting to run low I can't justify taking a Gen1 scope out of stock, just for me to play. :o

So the answer was to treat myself...lol...and build up a 4x50 Gen3 :p Whilst I was in a frivolous mood I drilled and tapped the housing and fitted a high power 100mW illuminator too. Not that a Gen3 scope needs it...lol...it's just that the ground is very wet at the moment and if I can pick up bunny eyes at 300 yards that will save any unnecessary trudging.

Got the scope mounted up easily, the flat uninterrupted dovetail on the HW100K makes it ideal for this. Also the relationship between the back of the action and the stock makes eye relief perfect without having to use additional mounts to hang the night scope off the back of the action.

In the hand you can certainly feel the weight difference between the tiny Simmons day scope and the night scope but the rifle can still be held in one hand on aim due to the balance being just forward of the pistol grip making adjustments to the scope/illuminator easy without having to lose the target.

Will get it zeroed later and hopefully get out with it this evening for a play.


Cheers





Clive

pets
15-12-2006, 06:51 PM
let me know how you got on with NV kit. these little gems are at the top of my wish list.

what gen3 scope is it??

Fluff
15-12-2006, 08:51 PM
If I were writing a review, it would include much of what Clive has said.

I have a HW100K.177 that I have been trialling with my gen1 NV.

The reduced weight of the K is a real bonus when mounting heavy scopes - compared to the full length HW100.
I find the full length version to be too cumbersome for hunting when mounting heavy scopes such as NV at ~2.5lbs in weight. The HW100K drops the weight enough to compensate for a heavier scope.
My .177K manages 65 shots at 10.7ftlb average of all pellets.
Logun Penetrator and JSB Heavy manage 11.7ftlb.
The muzzle crack is noticeably more than the standard .177, but not enough noise to worry about.

Fluffy

cliveward
16-12-2006, 12:21 AM
let me know how you got on with NV kit. these little gems are at the top of my wish list.

what gen3 scope is it??

I try my best to keep a low profile as far as advertising is concerned...must be doing right if you didn't know I'm in the business of importing, distributing and indeed manufacturing (mainly) night vision rifle scopes. The scope I'm using is one of our NVS4x50 housings with a Gen3 tube. This is something I've built for myself as I had the parts handy and not one of our standard products. ;)


Cheers





Clive

cliveward
16-12-2006, 12:42 AM
Getting back to reviewing using the HW100K with night vision...

All I can say about the scope is that it's like daytime, only green. Turn on the built in IR illuminator and it's like a very very sunny day, only green. In fact it wasn't comfortable to use the built in IR illuminator at airgun ranges. The image was simply too bright. I didn't even bother with the additional 100mW long range illuminator. I could see bunnies at 200 yards in the fields without any illumination! There was some sky glow and I could make out where the field ended, the hedge started and where the hedge met the sky at 200 yards with the naked eye...so on a 'proper' dark night things may be different.

The one thing I did find was that I set the focus on the scope at 35 yards and left it there as an aid to rangefinding. I guess the depth of field at this setting was very crisp from 30-40 yards, anything further was just gradually more out of focus but still distinguishable.

The general method was:

Locate rabbits in field
Stalk up until they were pin sharp in focus
Shoot them

Quite simple really and was extremely effective.

The HW magazine was easy to change in the dark and all the controls of the rifle were easily to hand. I went out for a couple of hours and with no sling on the rifle (studs not fitted yet) I didn't find it any chore to carry for that length of time. Also if the rifle isn't cocked the safety catch will not engage. Handy to know if you start wondering if you remembered to cycle the action after the last shot you took.

The stock was really comfortable too and seemed steady in all positions.

The most noteable shot of the night was a spooky bunny the other side of a fence that I knew if I started to climb it would be off. So I rested the rifle on my hand resting on a fence post. Due to the slightly out of focus image and sweeping down with the scope to see where it came in focus I guessed the range at 50 yards. I rested the centre dot just on the top of its head and then held right for the same distance for wind and dropped it cleanly. The height of the NV scope above the bore makes longer shots require less hold over btw. When I did retrieve it, the actual distance was 56 yards!


Cheers





Clive

MONKEY TOES
20-12-2006, 06:40 AM
hello all i have just bought a hw100 and it pushing just over 12 is it easy to down the power a tad ? my last gun was a bsa ultra and that was pushing 8.5 and i found it easy to tweak up to 11.5 help:confused:

karlbird
21-12-2006, 03:53 PM
Clive,

Do you have any photos of your rig please? I am quite intrigued as to what the NV kit looks like on an air rifle, my only experience of the gear has been on work guns (SA-80 and CWS/IWS)!

Fluff
21-12-2006, 07:47 PM
MONKEY TOES
...is it easy to down the power a tad...

Not since Weihrauch and/or Hull Cartridge began fitting non-adjustable internals and anti-tamper devices to the newer models. That's mostly the one's with quickfills.
If it's doing more than 11.4, take or send it back.

ATB
Fluffy

zigzag
15-01-2007, 07:46 PM
newby and spent sunday afternoon trying to zero in my nikko stirling scope on my HW100t....was way off at first but managed to get it reasonably good.Then got home and took scope back off and readjusted.Had packed the front mount with some plastic then read you should pack only the rear mount and use thin cuts of film negative as packers!!! have got the scope to optical centre and positioned it properly on the rails.What is the best distance to zero it in at???? keep reading conflicting distances and am just a confused puppy....the rifle itself is so quiet ..oh so quiet.You hardly know you sent one off.Also what is the best silicone oil to use? Was told to keep using the same pellets (.177) but I went mad and bought several different types, read that the HW100 likes mosts pellets and I don't wan't to disappoint.:)

cliveward
17-07-2007, 06:38 PM
Hi All,

Just thought I'd update you all on the progress on the HW100K / NV. I've dispensed with the overkill Gen3 scope and fitted a more sensible lightweight Gen1+ variety.

I've retained the small simmons scope for daytime use, both day and night scopes are on QR mounts.

Anyway here's a couple of photos of the setup.


Cheers




Clive

muzzer
18-07-2007, 01:27 PM
hi there all im after some advice im wanting a decent air rifle for hunting fury animals :D and ive heard good things about the Weihrauch HW100 as a newbee i dont know much i just know what i want from the rifle and thats looks, multishot, what do you think i the Weihrauch HW100 for me ? iv heard theres gonna be a carbine version lunched at the international game fare in leeds next weekend? oh and i have a budget of £750 for the rifle

Dave_1
28-07-2007, 07:11 AM
I had one but fell out with shooting when i took up falconry again but now have a little more time to do both, well once a week with two birds to fly.
It was/is a stunning Rifle. I love the Weihrauchs which is why i bought the recent 45 pistol, they are so well made.

If i where stationary hunting its a definate but is a bit heavy for skirmish

I wish i had mine or another back but funds are short with the new hawking season coming up.

Great guns.:)