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mikentl
29-12-2006, 07:13 PM
Had it delivered to day. On first look the build reminds me of a russian or german camera, they look good do their job and feel sturdy.
The finish is quite good, not smooth but a good even colour.
The optics seem quite bright and the side wheel focus is either in or out, no half way as with end paralax scopes. The turrets are big as well, plenty of room to stick your own bits of paper on. The turrets move easily, with positive clicks, but i'm not sure if they will hold their setting after being put in and out of a gun case. The clicks are quite wide apart, and can be set between clicks, i'm not sure if this is a good thing or not.
The side focus wheel although being only slighty larger than the other turrets, has the numbers in yards well spaced out, if they turn out to be accurate, it will be possible to judge the yards between the 30-40-50 marks fairly easily
The main thing i'm dissapointed with, is on the box is says the scope pots can be reset to zero after zeroing in, i'd assumed that the turrets would unlock in some way, then turn the pot to zero without moving the reticules and then lock up again, This doesn't happen, there is no way to release the pots, there is a big screw on top but it looks like it holds the pot on. I spoke to uttings they don't know, and are going to contact BSA for me.
Zeroing in was straight forward, plenty of turns on both turrets.
Compared to my 6x24.56 nikko the scope is not as big or as heavy
On the whole it looks worth its money, and i'm pleased with it

stevecochrane
29-12-2006, 07:17 PM
Hi Mate

On some other scopes you unscrew the big screw lift off turret align to zero, push on and tighten screw again

Gar73
29-12-2006, 07:21 PM
I have just put a Bsa Platinum 8-32x44 front PA scope on my S410k as I wanted to try that rifle at a little FT shooting without spending to much on the scope and even if it proves to be not up to the job I can still drop the mag down and use it as a HFT scope and general target scope.

Overall I am very impressed with it so far. The real test will be range finding between 50 and 55 yards. But across the board so far I like it.

mikentl
29-12-2006, 09:46 PM
Hi Mate

On some other scopes you unscrew the big screw lift off turret align to zero, push on and tighten screw again

Hi Steve thanks
Yes I've just tried that it can be done, but it seems to be a bit of a struggle to get the pot off without moving the zero point as its on a knurled shaft. Not what you would expect on a normal scope. Still a bit of a down point

Mike

lgo175
31-12-2006, 03:17 AM
How does the BSA compare with the nikko on clarity and brightness??
Also is it a a MilDot reticle?
Thanks
Les

mikentl
31-12-2006, 11:59 AM
How does the BSA compare with the nikko on clarity and brightness??
Also is it a a MilDot reticle?
Thanks
Les

Because the image is a bit bigger on the nikko the BSA appears to be not quite as bright on full mag, but then you would expect that, as the BSA has a smaller end optic. Clarity is better on the BSA.
The BSA does not white-out as easily as the nikko.
The reticule is mildot.
I havent tried out the BSA in really low light, or in bright sunshine yet.
On the whole I prefer the BSA to the Nikko, it paralaxes much easier, and it hasn't got a large wheel on it yet.
My eyes being 60 years old need all the help in focusing they can ge

bolted
01-01-2007, 12:12 PM
I am just thinking about a replacement scope for my FTR. At the moment it has an old Tasco 4-16X40, but the mag is insufficient for longer range targets. It is used for range shooting plus rabbits at dusk/night. I shoot into a paddock which is lit by a nearby sodium roadlight. Once your eyes get used to it, there is sufficient light to see rabbits as they show up quite well inthe yellow light.

So the question is, what is the light transmission like on the BSA in low light?. The Tasco is a good scope, and there doesnt seem to be much difference under those conditions between it and a Leupold EFR I have on a .17HMR.

I also wonder about the AGS SWAT 8-32X56. It is a lot more expensive than the BSA (seen one at £269). Wonder of the lens quality is that much better.
Can anyone advise?

Ricky67
04-01-2007, 10:17 PM
Hi Mikentl
Found your comments very interesting on the BSA SWF 8-32x44 especially the comparison against the Big Nikko.
Tried to find this scope for the specifications on the BSA website without success as an article in “Air Gunner” said the body diameter is 30mm. yet a website I tried states 1”.
Any idea please where I can obtain the full specification? Particularly whether the lens are fully multi-coated.
Thanks Ricky

mikentl
05-01-2007, 11:17 AM
Hi Mikentl
Found your comments very interesting on the BSA SWF 8-32x44 especially the comparison against the Big Nikko.
Tried to find this scope for the specifications on the BSA website without success as an article in “Air Gunner” said the body diameter is 30mm. yet a website I tried states 1”.
Any idea please where I can obtain the full specification? Particularly whether the lens are fully multi-coated.
Thanks Ricky

Hi Ricky
On the box it reads:-Multi coated, waterproof, shockproof, and fogproof,
but i haven't found a spec anywhere.
The 8x32 scope is 30mm the 1" one is the lower 6x24 scope.
Took it up the club yesterday, they were quite impressed with the accuracy of the yardage markings on the side wheel.
Another thing i found nice was the adjustment on the top turret.
Setting the zero at 35 yds on the the turret 0 mark, the 7 mark was right to about 60 yds, meaning, I didn't have to go past the 0 mark again.
OK for FT competitions which only go to 55 yds, I don't have to remember to wind back the turret in the correct direction after a long shot.

Ricky67
05-01-2007, 11:49 AM
Hi Mike
Thanks for your reply.
It sounds like the BSA is what I am looking for.
I currently have an enquiry out to BSA re specs. Will post results if anything useful comes up.
My main interest is FT so 55yds. is fine.
I use a scope height of 2.335" to enable use of the magazine which just clears the wheel on the Nikko.
The important question is "Do you think that a larger wheel is necessary on the BSA as from from the pics the markings look well spaced?"

mikentl
05-01-2007, 05:29 PM
No I don't the markings on the side wheel are spaced well apart from 25 to 60 there is just over an inch between 30 and 40 i could judge about a yard but between 50 and 60 the best would be about 3 yds.
A large wheel would make range finding a doddle, I would say every yard could be marked

Ricky67
05-01-2007, 05:39 PM
Thanks Mike for all the info.
Think I may turn up a wheel on my lathe large enough to be useful but with clearance for the magazine.

xbow
05-01-2007, 05:52 PM
I am just thinking about a replacement scope for my FTR. At the moment it has an old Tasco 4-16X40, but the mag is insufficient for longer range targets. It is used for range shooting plus rabbits at dusk/night. I shoot into a paddock which is lit by a nearby sodium roadlight. Once your eyes get used to it, there is sufficient light to see rabbits as they show up quite well inthe yellow light.

So the question is, what is the light transmission like on the BSA in low light?. The Tasco is a good scope, and there doesnt seem to be much difference under those conditions between it and a Leupold EFR I have on a .17HMR.

I also wonder about the AGS SWAT 8-32X56. It is a lot more expensive than the BSA (seen one at £269). Wonder of the lens quality is that much better.
Can anyone advise?

There is also a new MTC Viper 8-32X60 coming out any day now!

bolted
05-01-2007, 08:19 PM
Just spoke to BAR today. Due in any day as you say. Price supposedly fixed at £299. Be interesting to see if they discount them

mikentl
06-01-2007, 09:48 AM
Thanks Mike for all the info.
Think I may turn up a wheel on my lathe large enough to be useful but with clearance for the magazine.

Like to see that when its done Ricky, and to know how it range finds

xbow
07-01-2007, 01:29 AM
Like to see that when its done Ricky, and to know how it range finds

Me as well.

lgo175
01-02-2007, 03:06 AM
I recieved one yesterday......blurrry optics .....very poor focusing....dim....sending back...very cheap turrets... not even close to the bsa platinium 8-32x44 scope I currently have...

lgo175
03-03-2007, 01:32 PM
The bsa swf with 1 inch tube 8-32x44 I bought here in US is not same as what you have there. :mad: It is a lesser quality glass and turrets with turret covers. BSA is going to swap me out with the 30mm tube with knurled target turrets like you have there when the boat comes in. Hope its the same as the one I read about here.....

Enthusiast
11-04-2007, 07:16 PM
Thinking seriously about one of these, anyone know where I could get a bigsidewheel to fit? Apparently BSA didn't order any as they would have had to order zillions

Regards

Richard

xbow
11-04-2007, 07:20 PM
Try Jon Harris, top work.

lgo175
19-04-2007, 09:18 AM
The bsa swf with 1 inch tube 8-32x44 I bought here in US is not same as what you have there. :mad: It is a lesser quality glass and turrets with turret covers. BSA is going to swap me out with the 30mm tube with knurled target turrets like you have there when the boat comes in. Hope its the same as the one I read about here.....

:D :D :D Nice scope

Enthusiast
19-04-2007, 10:04 AM
I understand these are out of stock. BSA are awaiting another batch end of May?

MarkUK64
07-05-2007, 08:56 PM
The AGS is 'only' £239 on the optics warehouse web site btw.

lgo175
11-05-2007, 06:53 PM
usa price for Leapers which is same ags in only 159.00 usd........

Cheshire_cat
01-11-2007, 02:46 PM
I have just recieved one of these from Opticswarehouse (13 day wait with no communications, but all well that ends well).

At first sight they look great for the money, the optics seem to be good at all mags (but only tested it on a grey day), better than I expected
I normally use a 8-32x44 Bushnall 4200 elite, so wasnt expecting great things from the BSA for the price.

All twiddley bits are quite stiff but smooth at the monent, I expect they will loosen up in use.

Mil-dot are supposed to be correct at 10x

All in all a (hopefully) nice 8-32 x 44 with SWF, nice chunky turrets and a
30mm tube for around £150.00, looks like a good buy :)

If you want a reasonable priced SWF without a large objective lens then put one of these on your short list.

bertbod
27-11-2007, 07:19 PM
hi guys bit new to all this so here goes.
have just bought a bsa 4x16x44 mil-dot front para for my daystate ranger .22
been using ags 3x9x50 mil-dot which is not a patch on my bsa oh forgot to say that my bsa is rubberised if that makes sense.

keryniotis
28-11-2007, 07:02 AM
I got have a BSA 8X32X44 mildot 30mm tube about 2 months ago. Great scope, very happy with it at a great price.
You can also purchase them from JSR, very fast service and reliable people to deal with.

delta1
28-11-2007, 07:21 AM
The forum owner, JSR will be pleased to hear that.;):)