Leupold

[cammo man]

At the moment I use the VX-111 8.5x25x50 just about to buy another is the mk4 8.5x25x50 any better or is this yet again a marketting ploy just to keep us buying the latest product, if any one has moved up I would appreciate their imput[what I would realy want to own is a super sniper by S.W.F.A. CAMMO MAN

[shepp]

numbers wise there doesn't appear to be any real differance besides price

[nice one]

phone me i have one

[cammo man]

Thanks SHEPP thats what I thought but unless some one tells you who has upgraded you dont know,Have you ever used the S.W.F.A super sniper or has any one you know used one a sub $300 scope used by the US military up to 50cal has got to be good value for money, here in the UK to buy the equivalent in dollars would cost about $2000, Cheers CAMMO MAN

[hareng]

The optical quality is close on S&B, if not better is some areas. Look like a VX3 or Vari X 3 but the similarities end there.
There are other companies doing the fixed 10 mag Niko, EB, Tasco, Deben, SWFA, Unbranded, plus at least 5 others etc Anyone can have their name on if they buy enough.