View Full Version : nyone got a Yukon Ranger 5x42 Digital Nv
lancslad
14-02-2007, 10:22 PM
just had a look through one of these units tonight and i was tempted to get one
until i did , now im not sure , im not slagging the units of as i know nothing about night vision but i thought id be able to switch it on and maybe just focus into my eyes and away i go . i couldnt get it to work like that . i had to twist the left lens into focus then play with the brightness button a two handed operation , evey time i moved to scan i had to keep adjusting into focus .
any advice on the best way to use would be appreciated
thanks
pothunter
14-02-2007, 10:44 PM
Yep, think that's the way it works, focus on something at say 30 yds, then set the diopter Eyepiece (rear lever) to suit your vision.
Whenever you look at an object it's like any other bino/monocular, focus using the objective lens, the only difference is that you can adjust the sensitivity/brightness using the front wheel.
Experts, please help!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D
Baldie
15-02-2007, 08:44 AM
Yep, think that's the way it works, focus on something at say 30 yds, then set the diopter Eyepiece (rear lever) to suit your vision.
Whenever you look at an object it's like any other bino/monocular, focus using the objective lens, the only difference is that you can adjust the sensitivity/brightness using the front wheel.
Experts, please help!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D
When you first use the Yukon Ranger, you will do the same as you might with a dayscope, and that is focus it to your eye. Young eyes maybe don't need to do this, but I still recommend you do.
The screen that you see is a TFT matrix. There is a small chance one or two of these pixels will not provide full brightness levels and this will give you something to focus on if you can't see the matrix. If only one person is using the unit, I would recommend some tape fixing the dioptre adjuster in place.
Once this has been done, you will get the best from the unit.
It's quite likely you will have to continually rotate the lefthand (to you) barrel to keep whatever you are looking at, in focus. The optical path in NV optics is usually quite short. In my experience this seems to mean a reduced depth of focus. This happens with day and night optics.
It would be unusual to have to continually change the brightness level.... Unless you were scanning near and far areas? The on-board illuminator is good for over 100 yards IMO, and generally I find if the brightness level is set for a particular situation, it doesn't have to be adjusted much after that? The time it would be different, would be when looking at target that were quite close, (and maybe too bright) then looking at some that were 100 yards away. (So the brightness level needed to be increased.)
I have to point out, this unit isn't for everyone. Some people are using it with brightness levels too high, or too high for their eyes. A couple of people have reported getting eye-strain (headaches) after using the unit.
As a general statement, you can't get enough [IR] light for NV over any given distance, but these digital units are very sensitive, and its possible to get TOO MUCH light to your eye. I have recommended to my customers, they scan for 30 seconds, then have at least 2 minutes with the unit switched off. At least until their eye gets "conditioned", as it were, which might take a little time. [Weeks.] ;)
:) :)
pothunter
15-02-2007, 10:55 AM
In my very limited experience of using one of these, the brightness is important, I use a laser on mine, or I am using a cluson lamp with IR filter, and the sensitivity control is very close to its minimum most of the time.
Anymore than that and it is uncomfortable.
Baldie
15-02-2007, 11:31 AM
In my very limited experience of using one of these, the brightness is important, I use a laser on mine, or I am using a cluson lamp with IR filter, and the sensitivity control is very close to its minimum most of the time.
Anymore than that and it is uncomfortable.
My remarks were regarding the use of the on-board illuminator of course. I'd only ever use additional IR if looking for targets over 100 yards. There's no need for a laser at closer distances most of the time.
:) :)
Marky610
15-02-2007, 01:55 PM
Hi Richard,
Did you manage to find a DVD/Monitor to connect the devices together?
This is another method that can be used to over come eye strain, if you are using the device in a static postion by linking the Digital Ranger up to a portable DVD player you can view the image via the DVD Player or any other device that accepts an A/O input, by doing this you get a bigger picture and your eye is not anywhere near as close to the screen so you get virtually no eye strain as it's the same as view a TV, you also get to share the images with your shooting buddy as well.
Rob
I picked up a 7" lcd telly off that auction site for £27, works a treat :D
The focusing can be tricky at first but this is what I do, start with a close object, usually a hedge for me, and then its just minor adjustments to what you want to look at.
pothunter
15-02-2007, 04:12 PM
Hi Rob,
not got a DVD or LCD TV yet, but I have a job in York tomorrow and will try to pick one up along with a longer AV cable.
The ability to fine focus the Ranger is an advantage to me, for example one night this week there were deer, hares and a fox all mixed up amongst each other in a 120 acre field at ranges between 45 and beyond 200yds. We could clearly differentiate which was which, and were 100% certain of ID prior to my buddy getting lined up with the CF and flicking on the lamp for a shot.
ATB
Richard
nitemax
15-02-2007, 07:58 PM
Just get one of these instead:
http://www.nitemax-ultra.com/
Does everything the Yukon can plus it has interchangeable lenses :)
nitemax
15-02-2007, 08:49 PM
Oh and if you're really clever it will mount onto the back of a Telescopic turning it into a NV device..... by really clever I mean you just need to make the mount, I use an old Soviet Bazaar add on mount. The only real issue is eye relief but with a bit of imagination even this could be sorted.
Marky610
15-02-2007, 08:53 PM
Just get one of these instead:
http://www.nitemax-ultra.com/
Does everything the Yukon can plus it has interchangeable lenses :)
What a bizarre coincidence you have the same user name as the product? :rolleyes: :D ;) :p
is it possible to mount this unit on a rifle ? and use an infra red lazer as a aim point ?
Baldie
16-02-2007, 11:06 AM
is it possible to mount this unit on a rifle ? and use an infra red lazer as a aim point ?
In theory it's possible, but you wouldn't (bother). [There is a tripod mount underneath.]
A Gen I 'add-on' system, or the impending digital system will do the job much better. :)
Marky610
16-02-2007, 11:14 AM
In theory it's possible, but you wouldn't (bother). [There is a tripod mount underneath.]
A Gen I 'add-on' system, or the impending digital system will do the job much better. :)
Got any news on the digital unit Geoff?
Baldie
16-02-2007, 11:14 AM
Got any news on the digital unit Geoff?
Will ring now. :o
nitemax
16-02-2007, 02:52 PM
I can't see anything wrong with having a user name the same as a product, seems fairly normal on here to me :confused:
Yes it is "semi" covert but I can shoot all night without any eye strain at all, besides there were people suggesting connecting the Yukon unit to an additional screen... how covert might that be ?? The depth of field is excellent too, hardly any focusing required between 12 and 29 metres.
Being possible to look AT the screen rather than look through a scope ensures I don't need to hold the gun up to my eye just to see anything.
As far as range goes I can see a rats tail clearly at 50 metres in total darkness with it, why would I need anything better for an airgun ?
You've got me on the guarantee though:D my unit is away being repaired right now :o
nitemax
16-02-2007, 05:16 PM
I am posting in the interest of other bbs'ers who may be interested in what else is available in the way of digital night vision, I am also posting giving un-biased views from experience of using the Nitemax device. I have not used any other digital night vision device so I'm not in a position to comment.
I do not use this forum to trade......................
Carlitobrigante
16-02-2007, 05:53 PM
I am posting in the interest of other bbs'ers who may be interested in what else is available in the way of digital night vision, I am also posting giving un-biased views from experience of using the Nitemax device. I have not used any other digital night vision device so I'm not in a position to comment.
I do not use this forum to trade......................
Well said that Man!!!!:)
nitemax
16-02-2007, 07:28 PM
So the Ranger cannot be fitted to the gun and it has no reticle ?
It is possible to fit the Nitemax to a normal telescopic sight thus attaching it to the weapon, giving it an aim point and a magnification. I have done this, it works.
Baldie
16-02-2007, 10:38 PM
So the Ranger cannot be fitted to the gun and it has no reticle ?
It is possible to fit the Nitemax to a normal telescopic sight thus attaching it to the weapon, giving it an aim point and a magnification. I have done this, it works.
I can't see I'd ever want to do myself, but do you have any pictures of the unit attached to the back of a dayscope?
I'd be interested to know how far out you can see, as 25 yards in a suburban environment isn't particularly pertinent here. For the most part NV is used here for hunting. The Yukon Ranger provides us with 'browsing' capability to 100+ yards in almost no-light situations.....
The NiteMax is inexpensive, but does it fit the needs of shooters over here?
...
nitemax
17-02-2007, 06:54 PM
I will try to post some when I get it back, I also have some footage taken from the video out port when using an IR laser as an aim point
Gary C
19-02-2007, 11:35 AM
Interesting viewpoint contradiction here.
The 2 star crossed lovers, Geoffrey and Rob, are making different claims for the Yukon. Rob says 200 yards, Geoffrey says 100.
Who is telling the truth?
Kind of an important question here as both are selling the units on the strength of those claims.
As I have a Yukon here and have been using it extensively for a couple of weeks I know the answer...;)
Prodigal
19-02-2007, 12:11 PM
So WHEN is a weapon mounted unit going to be available for test then?? :confused:
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