Anschutz 1517 DHBG

[bolted]

Acquired as a replacement for a CZ varmint 20". What's the difference?
Well, ugly coloured stock. Like dark brown plastic, even though it is walnut. Almost no pattern in the wood. Nicer blueing and a smoother bolt action, though. Still the mod 64 fault of the bolt lifting if you are not careful ,preventing the shot going off.

So not an awful lot to commend it over the CZ, right?
Wrong. The trigger. Just fab. I have a 2 stage unit in mine. In a calibre as accurate as this, used over (relatively) long distances, it makes a real difference. I got used to the CZ unit, but standing shots were always hit or miss, because the break point was hard to gauge. The 1517 is about as good as I've ever found in any rifle/ target pistol. It is also a lighter rifle than the CZ.

Group size is consistently about 1/3" smaller over 100yds than the CZ. Bit of care from a sandbag with no wind brought 4 shot holes which more or less touched tonight, shot prone. Probably entirely due to the trigger.

Actually, when it shoots like that, I don't really care about the wood colour too much.

So worth the difference? To me, definitely. But the CZ is still a hell of a gun, and an absolute bargain. Either one will do the trick. Just a question of personal taste.

[bennyblanco]

was thinking about writing to "anie" about the stocks, they have gone to :mad:
i ordered a 1517 for a friend, we picked it up on thursday and it looked almost like a dark brown synthetic stock:confused:
i'm not that bothered as i hunt with my guns but still would be unlikely to order a new one unless i saw it 1st



ben(glad mine is an old one although i should have got a two stage trigger)

[Airbrush]

Must admit,the standard stocks are pretty bland,if that's an issue pay more for a thumbhole,nicer stock all round.

When I got my 1417 I went over to Frank Dykes to pick out a standard stock,but they were all the same,no pattern in the wood what so ever.Got a choice thumbhole instead.;):D

1517 is on the shopping list for next year.:cool::D

Andy.

Ps don't have the problem of the bolt lifting on mine,but one in every 20 shots the spent brass is'nt ejected cleanly.I did no this was an issue before I bought it.

[lucky trigger]

But then again spend 12.50 on a brooks trigger kit and the cz's trigger is transformed. My mates anschultz is no more accurate than my brooks kit fitted cz.;) Plus its a damn sight cheaper..

[bennyblanco]

its not the blandness, they look like they have been sprayed with Cuprinol Sprayable Fence Treatment in autum brown:eek:

looks very cheap and even makes a cz look attractive.

if i did buy another i would look at the beavertail fore ended stock as long as it doesn't get the same wood treatment.



my mates rifle still works flawlessly but the stock is poo

[bennyblanco]

But then again spend 12.50 on a brooks trigger kit and the cz's trigger is transformed. My mates anschultz is no more accurate than my brooks kit fitted cz.;) Plus its a damn sight cheaper..

your beretta is no more accurate than a £25 baikal but i assume you just like having a nice gun;)

the shooting world would be a crap place if we all had cz's, s200's and cheapy shotguns.


the anschutz price tag is suddenly a bit hard to swallow with the crappy finish and i hope they do something about it.


ben

[lucky trigger]

your beretta is no more accurate than a £25 baikal but i assume you just like having a nice gun;)

the shooting world would be a crap place if we all had cz's, s200's and cheapy shotguns.


the anschutz price tag is suddenly a bit hard to swallow with the crappy finish and i hope they do something about it.


ben

Fair point ben.. Although my beretta was s/h and yes its nice using quality kit:)

[jamie g]

Acquired as a replacement for a CZ varmint 20". What's the difference?
Well, ugly coloured stock. Like dark brown plastic, even though it is walnut. Almost no pattern in the wood. Nicer blueing and a smoother bolt action, though. Still the mod 64 fault of the bolt lifting if you are not careful ,preventing the shot going off.

So not an awful lot to commend it over the CZ, right?
Wrong. The trigger. Just fab. I have a 2 stage unit in mine. In a calibre as accurate as this, used over (relatively) long distances, it makes a real difference. I got used to the CZ unit, but standing shots were always hit or miss, because the break point was hard to gauge. The 1517 is about as good as I've ever found in any rifle/ target pistol. It is also a lighter rifle than the CZ.

Group size is consistently about 1/3" smaller over 100yds than the CZ. Bit of care from a sandbag with no wind brought 4 shot holes which more or less touched tonight, shot prone. Probably entirely due to the trigger.

Actually, when it shoots like that, I don't really care about the wood colour too much.

So worth the difference? To me, definitely. But the CZ is still a hell of a gun, and an absolute bargain. Either one will do the trick. Just a question of personal taste.

does all 1517 come with 2 stage triggers or are some of them set triggers ?

[Spanner.]

I have owned 3 x Annies in 22lr and HMR and now own a CZ Silhouette. IMO with a trigger kit fitted the CZ shoots just as well and is far better value.

[mildot]

Ive got a 1517 thumbhole, The wood is quite pretty, well infact a darn sight better than the laquered CZ i used to have! and the annie has a nice grain. The quality of the Annie is far superior than CZ too! The only time my bolt lifts is when my rifle is slung and me elbow knocks the bolt. However there is a problem with it, Well its prob the ammo but every now and again i get failure to fire! If i recock the rifle with the ammo in the same place, ie so the fireing pin strikes the same spot as before it goes off. This has happened about 3 times per 100 rounds! Oh and it remington ammo.

Plus points as i see it are,
Far better handling than a CZ
Far better trigger than a CZ even if a trigger kit is fitted.
Far superior quality
Far nicer to look at.

BUT.... It is over twice the price of a CZ. buut, but, but if like me you will get an after market stock for your CZ, you can add on about £300 for a stock add that to your £300 CZ and you have the same cost as a Annie but you dont get the quality. This is why i changed to an Anschutz...

The accuracy is the same whether you have a CZ or an Anschutz!

[Spanner.]

Of the four points raised in favour I personally wouldn't agree with any but thats what makes us different;)

[bolted]

Seems that the current batch of walnut for the classic stocks is pants in terms of appearance.

I sent an email to the advertising director of Anschutz saying that the appearance of the wood in no way resembles the images in their current brochure, and made the point that this was one of the reasons why I chose their product. I am waiting to hear back. Thought it best to deal with the factory first in case I get palmed off by the importer.

Cant do very much about it if all the stocks they have look the same. But I am hoping they can arrange a swap through Dyke's, or allow me to pay the difference for a thumbhole if that is a nicer wood. A little point perhaps, but it is a bit of a downer to open the cabinet and see the wood equivalent of Cherie Blair standing on her head.

Will keep you posted.

[Airbrush]

Seems that the current batch of walnut for the classic stocks is pants in terms of appearance.

I sent an email to the advertising director of Anschutz saying that the appearance of the wood in no way resembles the images in their current brochure, and made the point that this was one of the reasons why I chose their product. I am waiting to hear back. Thought it best to deal with the factory first in case I get palmed off by the importer.

Cant do very much about it if all the stocks they have look the same. But I am hoping they can arrange a swap through Dyke's, or allow me to pay the difference for a thumbhole if that is a nicer wood. A little point perhaps, but it is a bit of a downer to open the cabinet and see the wood equivalent of Cherie Blair standing on her head.

Will keep you posted.

Totally agree,you pay top dollar the least you can expect is a nice piece of wood to compliment the quality of the rifle.Good luck.

Andy.

[AnthonyR]

The thumbhole stocks are all fitted in the UK, hence maybe why the wood is different

[bennyblanco]

The only time my bolt lifts is when my rifle is slung and me elbow knocks the bolt. However there is a problem with it, Well its prob the ammo but every now and again i get failure to fire! If i recock the rifle with the ammo in the same place, ie so the fireing pin strikes the same spot as before it goes off. This has happened about 3 times per 100 rounds! Oh and it remington ammo.



two things will help:)

i leave the bolt in the semi lifted locked position until i am ready to fire, it makes carrying the loaded gun very safe as it can not fire until the bolt is lowered and you never knock it to cause a misfire while carrying the gun.

the occasional misfire is caused by the fact that the chamber is cut to a tight tolerance to the cartridge(match chamber?) and any crap in the chamber stops the rim from reaching the face that it should butt up against(try pushing a case into the breach and it will get tight 1mm from the end)
if you get a .22 bronze brush(i pinch the metal loop on the end so it cant touch the rifling) and very gently clean the chamber it will disappear for 1000 or so rounds.

a .17 brush wont touch the chamber as its too wide.



hope this helps

ben

[Marky610]

I just picked up a 1417 thumbhole stock and it had a nasty 2 stage trigger, soon got the action out of the stock and adjusted it to make it a single stage :D

Why do people like two stagers??????

Reminds me too much of crappy airrifles :D




PS, you'll never catch me with a Cz in my cabinet (rifle snob) :D

[bolted]

does all 1517 come with 2 stage triggers or are some of them set triggers ?

They come as standard with I stage, 2 stage optional. About £70

[jamie g]

They come as standard with I stage, 2 stage optional. About £70

but is the single stage still good ? or does it need adjusting and can they be adjusted :)

[Airbrush]

but is the single stage still good ? or does it need adjusting and can they be adjusted :)

Give the agents a ring, Frank Dyke 0208 6702224.;)

Andy.

[bolted]

but is the single stage still good ? or does it need adjusting and can they be adjusted :)

Book says you can adjust them

[Marky610]

but is the single stage still good ? or does it need adjusting and can they be adjusted :)

Yes it can, all you have to do is follow the instructions in the manual and you end up with the best trigger I've ever used :)

[bolted]

Yes it can, all you have to do is follow the instructions in the manual and you end up with the best trigger I've ever used :)

Agree

[AnthonyR]

I've lost my instructions, can anybody please tell me how to do it or post a copy.

[bolted]

If you ring Dyke's (No. previously in post), I am sure they will send you another manual. The manufacturers are twitchy about being accused of not supplying adequate instructions for their products.

[oneseven]

Ive got a 1517 thumbhole, The wood is quite pretty, well infact a darn sight better than the laquered CZ i used to have! and the annie has a nice grain. The quality of the Annie is far superior than CZ too! The only time my bolt lifts is when my rifle is slung and me elbow knocks the bolt. However there is a problem with it, Well its prob the ammo but every now and again i get failure to fire! If i recock the rifle with the ammo in the same place, ie so the fireing pin strikes the same spot as before it goes off. This has happened about 3 times per 100 rounds! Oh and it remington ammo.

Plus points as i see it are,
Far better handling than a CZ
Far better trigger than a CZ even if a trigger kit is fitted.
Far superior quality
Far nicer to look at.

BUT.... It is over twice the price of a CZ. buut, but, but if like me you will get an after market stock for your CZ, you can add on about £300 for a stock add that to your £300 CZ and you have the same cost as a Annie but you dont get the quality. This is why i changed to an Anschutz...

The accuracy is the same whether you have a CZ or an Anschutz!


I have had the exactly the same problem with mine, a handful of missfires per 100 rounds, each time I lift and drop the bolt and it fires second time, but very annoying when you have a bead on a bunny and it doesn't go first time! I take the point that it could be crud between the edge of the chamber and the rim but I don't put a huge volume through it and keep it scrupulously clean.

I would like to change the wood for a synthetic stock, for example something like the stocks hogue do for the 10/22 but there doesn't seem to be anything available. Also the 4 round magazine is annoying after using a 10/22especially when spares are £45 a pop! Otherwise I can't fault it.

[RichardAllen]

My month with my 1517 thumbhole Annie gives me much the same view, awesome rifle, occasional misfire easily sorted (Remington ammo, all kept very clean).

I differ about the 4 shot magazine though. I find that four bunnies is about the right load to carry back to the Land Rover before setting out for more. ;)

[Wabbit Icer]

Concerning the wood stocks on the latest Anschutz, they do look poor in that horrible brown lacquer. however, if you take time to strip that stuff off back to bare wood you can get a lovely finish (much nicer than the way they come from the factory) with a number of coats of Danish Oil.

I bought my 1517 Second Hand and the previous owner had done a great job as well as looking after the rifle to a very high standard.:)

Cheers

Steve

[jamie g]

well got mine yesterday love it. just want to get out and shoot it now ive put my bipod on it fitted a whitetail 6.5x20x50 on it. but would like to put a better scope on in the future. all i got to do now is take it out and set it up :)
and i have loads of different ammo to so im going to get a lot of shooting in on it. and see which the rifle likes best. the bolt is so smooth on it and the trigger is crisp the over all build of the rifle seems super and i was going to go for the cz varmint but i got a cz 22 lr so make a change and went for this for the hmr. im still unsure which mod to get for it. and am going to try out the carbon one i have here for my 22lr on it other then that i will see what i can find at the game fair :D

[Wabbit Icer]

I have a DM80 can on my Annie - superb bit of kit and pretty quiet

Love the HMR round in any guise as it is such a potent little calibre:D

[extec]

Steve..........thats not a mod you have on the end of the .17, its a council dustbin. ........ "Its Bloody huge":D:D

[Wabbit Icer]

I know the thing is most impressive and verrrry verrrry quiet.......The wabbits in my freezer would testify to that (if they could speak):D:D:D

[Mousemann]

Anschutz are a really good company to deal with too. I couldn't get some thread protectors for mine and so e-mailed one of their blokes there. He promptly posted me one for each of my Annies - free of charge.

You just can't whack German engineering. These rifles are superb.

[Alycidon]

To get even half decent timber on an Annie from the factory you have to look at the 17 series. Mind you they dont half shoot, you could always restock it, McMillan do a stock ready inletted for it I think. I have one on a centerfire with the colours swirled in. Very cheap at presnt now thanks to the exchange rate.

A

[Chris St. MH]

Anschutz are a really good company to deal with too. I couldn't get some thread protectors for mine and so e-mailed one of their blokes there. He promptly posted me one for each of my Annies - free of charge.

You just can't whack German engineering. These rifles are superb.

Was that Anschutz or Frank Dyke the importer?

[Stuu]

1517 ZG (17HMR)

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x40/mwbuilding/DSC00101.jpg

:D

[paulw6969]

Just Picked Mine Up[ Today What Brand Of Amo Do They Like As Some Of The Ones I Have Used In My Ruger Seems Bit Greasey Please

[Airbrush]

Just Picked Mine Up[ Today What Brand Of Amo Do They Like As Some Of The Ones I Have Used In My Ruger Seems Bit Greasey Please

Eley plus subs, I wouldn't bother trying anything else.;) Unless it groups like a shotgun.:rolleyes::D

Andy.