Target pistols pricey or what

[webranger]

Hi:
After much contemplation Im going to get a Rohm Sport, not seen one localy with a L/hand grip so not able to try one proper like. Do any of you have this model if so what do you think of its performance. Also they are advertised on Uttings at 4fpe I suspect this is tripe so can someone confirm please.:eek:

There are other splendid target pistols but the price tags IMO are rediculous. Not ready to part with £1000 or around that for a pistol thats only good for shooting paper. What do you all think on this subject.
John

[Firestorm]

John,

Horses for courses in my opinion.

I honestly will never be "into" pistol shooting that much that I need a gun of that quality. Mine is all fun plinking.

Having said that, if it's your "thing" why not?

Russ

[Aardys]

its the build quality that makes them cost that un-godly amount of money im afraid .. i had a go with a Steyr 5 shot semi once .. have to say it must be the highest quality pistol i have ever shot , just superbly made ..
you can pick them up secondhand for about half the new price .. and good thing with target pistols is they will always be in good condition ,, why would they not be.
but the Gamo compact is a good target pistol to start with , and the trigger can be modded to make it better ,
Nige on here had a web site that showed how to get it to work better ,,
have fun .,..,cliff

[Prone Shooter]

Hi:
After much contemplation Im going to get a Rohm Sport, not seen one localy with a L/hand grip so not able to try one proper like. Do any of you have this model if so what do you think of its performance. Also they are advertised on Uttings at 4fpe I suspect this is tripe so can someone confirm please.:eek:

There are other splendid target pistols but the price tags IMO are rediculous. Not ready to part with £1000 or around that for a pistol thats only good for shooting paper. What do you all think on this subject.
John


But thats the whole point. They are only really designed for paper punching its just that some folks appreciate the quality and use them for other purposes as well.

I have only ever used mine for 10m, so if I want to plink or shoot pistol HFT then there's again really only one choice, a proper mans pistol, the BSA Scorpion;):D

Bob

[derekm]

Apart from the Gamo Compact, which is an excellent gun,as previously stated, why not go for a S/H Tau, Alfa or Aeron CO2? Unless you are approaching Olympic standard, they will outshoot you and most of the guys with the Steyrs etc.. Don't pay too much attention to the doomsayers regarding CO2. If you use it sensibly, you won't be caught out with varying velocities. The above guns can be found for around £150 upwards.
If you are lucky you could drop onto a CO2 version of one of the World class pistols at a very reasonable price, because everyone knows that CO2 is a waste of time and nowadays we must go pre-charged......:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

[webranger]

Ive met a bloke shooting a CO2 pistol if memory serves right I believe it was a Drulov. Highly accurate but heavy, too heavy for me.

Any Rohm sport lovers?
John

Edit
I intend to enter the 6yd pistol comps and later on the 10m comps so decent kit needed. Am struggling to get the constistant accuracy with the HW45 though I do love this pistol its so much fun blasting tin cans into oblivion.

[Prone Shooter]

I personally wouldn't go for a Rohm for 10m due to the long lock time from the "hammer" strike.

I might be in the market to pass on a FAS 604 extended barrel though. Puts all other over barrel pneumatics to shame and very accurate.

Bob

[xbow]

I don't understand why pistols are so expensive unless the manufacturers are actually saying they make their pistols better than their rifles - which have more than 3 times the material in them? ........:confused: :p

[webranger]

I don't understand why pistols are so expensive unless the manufacturers are actually saying they make their pistols better than their rifles - which have more than 3 times the material in them? ........:confused: :p

Thats it in a nutshell. Tuesday at Low mill I was looking at a steyr target PCP air rifle lovely polished finish with peep sight £995 in comparison with a pistol a lot more for your money. Im not confused I think they are ripping us off and then some.
John

[derekm]

The top quality rifles are expensive too! Don't compare a Steyr or similar pistol with a good but somewhat lesser rifle. Compare apples with apples.:)

[webranger]

I will admit I know very little of top end target rifles but this one looked very good and came with a test card one hole group. How much better can they be?
John

[Aardys]

I don't understand why pistols are so expensive unless the manufacturers are actually saying they make their pistols better than their rifles - which have more than 3 times the material in them? ........:confused: :p

maybe they sell more rifles than pistols so they can bring the price down a bit ,,

[derekm]

Fair enough John. We were both typing at the same time last post.

I hadn't looked at price lists, but two guys in our club recently bought Steyrs; the rifle was around £1200 and the 5 shot pistol a bit short of a grand I believe. I think the single shot pistol is a bit cheaper. Both still a lot of money I agree and apart from the satisfaction factor of owning and using a fine piece of precision engineering, they are almost definitely overkill for around 99.9% of shooters.

The Steyr rifle is shooting mid 90s bench rest (not the rifle's fault!) whereas another member with a standard Air Arms 410 is regularly doing 104 to 108. You can't buy points!

[webranger]

That was the first time I've had my paws on a proper target rifle and I was impressed by the way it looked and the features though quite heavy.
Pistols:
I will end up with a Styr/equal pistol eventually though Im a little frustated I'll not be able to afford one this year. Something to look forward to next year maybe.:)
John

[xbow]

I quite like this:

http://www.schiesssport.de/shop/1/waffen/4/luftpistole/2800/fwb_lp_p56_rechts/

But at £1,132.00 it's a bit on the pricey side and more than my rifle:

http://www.schiesssport.de/shop/1/waffen/1/luftgewehr/2547/fwb_p700_universal_rechts/

[webranger]

So do I but I'll have to dream about it for now.:D
John

[Aitch]

Excellent quality and accuracy way beyond my abilities but very nice to shoot with, cost is not related to enjoyment I enjoy paper punching with mine just as much as I do with my Weihrauch HW 75. I do not shoot competition just shoot for my own enjoyment.
If that is overkill and wrong then so be it, I suppose car drivers should all drive Ladas as having anything more expensive is overkill. Interesting to know what cars you drive.
I don't have a car as I live and travel on my 57ft narrowboat or is that overkill when I could just as easily do the same on a 30 footer.
As with everything in life get the best you can afford
ATVB
Ian

[spasor]

Buy a FN8 and you`ve got a 20 metre pistol than can be converted into a full power carbine in minutes. Or a Rohm trainer for under £300, 8 shots if you fancy just plinking, plus if you can outshoot a trainer then you NEED a serious target pistol.:D

[ikarma70]

Buy a FN8 and you've got a 20 metre pistol than can be converted into a full power carbine in minutes.

do you mean an fn8 action at 12ft.lbs. in a shoulder stock?

if so you are in possession of an illegal firearm.
its still legally regarded as a pistol.

[spasor]

do you mean an fn8 action at 12ft.lbs. in a shoulder stock?

if so you are in possession of an illegal firearm.
its still legally regarded as a pistol.

http://www.alansairrifles.co.uk/falcon.htm Down the page is the FN8 carbine, it`s a FN8 action in a shoulder stock? If you drop the power to under 6ftlbs (swop the carbine spring for a pistol spring and adjust tension) and replace the `shoulder stock` with a pistol grip what is illegal about that?:confused:

[ikarma70]

http://www.alansairrifles.co.uk/falcon.htm Down the page is the FN8 carbine, it`s a FN8 action in a shoulder stock? If you drop the power to under 6ftlbs (swop the carbine spring for a pistol spring and adjust tension) and replace the `shoulder stock` with a pistol grip what is illegal about that?:confused:

if under 6ft.lb. its ok :)

[derekm]

Excellent quality and accuracy way beyond my abilities but very nice to shoot with, cost is not related to enjoyment I enjoy paper punching with mine just as much as I do with my Weihrauch HW 75. I do not shoot competition just shoot for my own enjoyment.
If that is overkill and wrong then so be it, I suppose car drivers should all drive Ladas as having anything more expensive is overkill. Interesting to know what cars you drive.
I don't have a car as I live and travel on my 57ft narrowboat or is that overkill when I could just as easily do the same on a 30 footer.
As with everything in life get the best you can afford
ATVB
Ian

Ian, when I said overkill, I didn't mean to imply that it is wrong, only that the expensive small amount of extra accuracy is not really an advantage for most shooters. I will be the first to say how satisfying it is to own, handle and use a fine piece of engineering. Present car is a Picasso 1.6hdi; it does everything I need in a very pleasant way and frankly I wouldn't have another Porsche if I won the lottery! Also agreed on the 57ft boat rather than 30; I prefer my 4 bed house to a 2, but I still wouldn't splash out a grand on a pistol unless I could shoot at at least National level and it was the only remaining avenue to improve. Just my thoughts!

[Aitch]

Ian, when I said overkill, I didn't mean to imply that it is wrong, only that the expensive small amount of extra accuracy is not really an advantage for most shooters. I will be the first to say how satisfying it is to own, handle and use a fine piece of engineering. Present car is a Picasso 1.6hdi; it does everything I need in a very pleasant way and frankly I wouldn't have another Porsche if I won the lottery! Also agreed on the 57ft boat rather than 30; I prefer my 4 bed house to a 2, but I still wouldn't splash out a grand on a pistol unless I could shoot at at least National level and it was the only remaining avenue to improve. Just my thoughts!

Good points well made. As you say we all have personal preferences, and when it comes to guns I enjoy using the best I can afford, as to accuracy I now know the variation in grouping is down to me and not the gun, perhaps it's a confidence thing. Thats also why I shoot an AA EV2. Sheer enjoyment, and I don't shoot comps. Just for fun. I get just as much enjoyment from my Harrier X.
I would have liked to have driven a Porsche but my my wife wouldn't let me drive the the one I bought for her.
Regards
Ian

[Sharpshoot1995]

as you'll see in my comment i've got a walther CPM-1 and i got that for £250 secondhand and that was used in the olympics so ask about at your gun club
Sharpshoot:)