ev2 best pellet?

[bassmanrich]

hello all im new to the hft sport, and lucky to get a mint (3 month old) ev2 mk2 and i put on it an mtc 10x44 scope. I was recently at my new club checking it (wow) and was using old accupells and premiers through it. (from my old shooting days) While i know accupells are now hard to find, and perhaps a wee bit light? i was wondering if any one could save me the time and money and suggest a decent long range pellet for hft that works well with ev2 mk2, or should i stick with accupells?. Im only in this for fun at the mo, so i guess its an expensive plinker, but shooting holes through a pellet tin at 50 yards brought me happyness!! ;-)
(easily pleased me)
To another question, what is the differance between accupells and prems?

Thanks all!

[big_phil555]

Hi

try out AA fields, JSB exact or Daystate F/T in 4.52 head size for a start.

Each barrel will like something different, so try out a pell pack to try out different ones also (any excuse to shoot)

Have fun

ATB

Phil

[AD_K]

I've got an EV2 Mark 1 and it loves AA Fields in .177 (5.51) the 4.52 head sizes arent bad either. But 4.51 are just that little bit better.

Also the Daystate Selects are quite good, but havent done enough testing to proove that is so..

Thanks

AD K

[bassmanrich]

thanks ll get a tin of aa in 51 tomorrow. Allso I have posted in the for sale and as yet nothing has shown (about 3 hours ago) am today new here, do you have to be here for a while before i can post?? Thanks.

[AD_K]

Er no mate, should go straight on...

One here
http://www.airgunbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=293893

and one here
http://www.airgunbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=294667

Cheers!

AD K

[alan-aitch.]

Hi Adam,

How you doing ?

I tried 5.51's in that EV but found them a bit tight ;);):p

Alan.

[finners]

I asked the same question a week or so ago.... I got one reply saying that Mosquito's seem to go well through the EV2.

I decided to run a trial last weekend. I tested... Mosquito 4.52, JSB Exact 4.52 and Datstate Select 4.52.

Before going on the range, I put 10 of each pellet through the chrono. The results were very close. All had a 10 fps spread. JSB and Daystates were vertually identical and the mozzies had a slightly higher FPS (as you would expect from a lighter pellet), but all pretty good.

So to the bench rested test on a 50yd target:

Apart from the slight POI for the mozzies, all three types gave a grouping of about 1". There was little to no wind, but it was possible that one or two were slightly wind effected, but my conclusion was that they were all about the same..!

Feeling disapointed, I got out my Pro-Target. This is a carbine version, with a UK Neil air stripper. Using my usual JSB 4.52 lubed pellets, I managed clover leaf groups at 50 yds...!

My conclusion is that the EV2 may prefer 4.51's or simply that the barell is not worn in yet..? I've probably only shot 1000 pellets through it, so I need to be patient.

One thing I've learned: Don't put lubed pellets through the EV2! The barell gets dirty very quickly. This deffinately does effect POI.

...for what it's worth

Finners ;)

[bassmanrich]

try crossman 7.9 prems been hittin 1inch group out to 80yards! but mine is just reaching the2000 mark on pelet that have gone through it, and from 1000 to 2000 it was getting more and more accurate.

[finners]

Thanks brassmanrich, that's worth knowing. I'll try a few prems see what they are like.
As you say though, might just be that I need to get more lead down the barell to get more consistant results...... I'll persevere.

Finners ;)

[Rapidnick]

try crossman 7.9 prems been hittin 1inch group out to 80yards! but mine is just reaching the2000 mark on pelet that have gone through it, and from 1000 to 2000 it was getting more and more accurate.


That I would like to see. 80 yards with a legal limit air rifle? All I can say is that you are lucky that Garyc isn't on this site any more.
Either that or you are the best undiscovered shot in the UK.:eek:

[verminhunter]

try crossman 7.9 prems been hittin 1inch group out to 80yards! but mine is just reaching the2000 mark on pelet that have gone through it, and from 1000 to 2000 it was getting more and more accurate.








I reckon you've got more chance of being visited by an alien then doing what you say you did.:D:D:D

[sniper-wolf]

Have you tried the 7.5grain Defiants. They are superb in mine. And you can run them around 840fps.

[Gungeek]

Have you tried the 7.5grain Defiants. They are superb in mine. And you can run them around 840fps.

You've done it now Neil, I've just ordered 1000, 4.52mm Defiants, to try. Fingers crossed they work in my EV2 Mk.2, or the Pro-Target maybe. We shall see. Regards ... Geek

[sniper-wolf]

You've done it now Neil, I've just ordered 1000, 4.52mm Defiants, to try. Fingers crossed they work in my EV2 Mk.2, or the Pro-Target maybe. We shall see. Regards ... Geek

Hi Paul, some of the top lads have tried the Defiants and they had superb tight groups at all ranges. Some of the lads complained of an unexplained flyer every so often. I put a full charge through the EV2 which was roughly 80 shots and didn't get a flyer at all. 35yds 1 hole 80 shot group. They were ok in the EV, but the Zenith hated them.
Let me know how you get on with them. Regards. Neil.

[finners]

Please post you findings on the Defiants Geek.

Thanks,

Finners ;)

[ascoughc]

jsb 4.51s seem to work well

[Gungeek]

I certainly will report back Neil (and Finners), can't wait to try them but ... they're going to have to be 'spot on' to match or beat the accuracy of Mozzies through my EV2. A.A 4.52's are almost as good, providing you sort them.

Anyway, to contribute something to the original topic of this thread - there are two Mk.I EV2 and now four Mk.II EV2 owners at the Iceni club and the concensus seems to be, "Don't overclean the (EV2) barrel," for optimum accuracy leave some (a little) filth behind, it's wholesome.

Regards ... Geek

[bassmanrich]

anyone tried prems 7.9 through the ev2? i seem to get good results with them

[Trojan1994]

But I know of others that prefer 7.9gr JSB Express(4.52)...

Regards,

Tony

[Gungeek]

Yesterday, a box of 1000, 4.52mm Defiants came crashing through the letter box. After inspection, no apparent damage but some must have suffered. Anyway, to work. Setup a 'Skan' Pro 1 Series 3 chronoscope in the garden shed ready for testing. Since, this season, I've mostly been using 7.9gr Webley Mosquito Express in the EV2 Mk.II, decided to do them first.

The rifle had 160 bar of air, so I shot five into the ground before shooting a string of ten through the chrono. I didn't record the individual results because they weren't what I was expecting. An extreme spread of 13 fps in the range 795 - 808 fps, worse results than the last time I chrono'd with Mozzies. My first thought was, does the rifle need servicing, second, which batch of pellets have I just used - I have Mozzies from two different batches. I bought ten tins from B.A.R. a few weeks ago and 'won' a few more from a mate, as part payment in a deal.

So, I tried the other batch of Mozzies (bought from B.A.R.), here are the results: 816, 816, 821, 817, 814, 817, 814, 814, 816, 823, extreme spread 9 fps, average 818 fps. These results are what I was expecting (if a bit high) and I believe, demonstrate acceptable consistency for an "off the shelf" rifle. Fortunately, anti-tamper measures haven't been applied to the transfer port adjuster on my EV2 Mk.II, so I can turn the power down when necessary.

This also shows Mosquitos have gone the same way as the other JSB variants, i.e. inconsistency of manufacture. You have to look at it in perspective though, I used the 'undersize' batch of Mozzies last weekend in the Essex 50 competition (at East Tilbury & Linford FTC club) and secured second place, in rather windy conditions. So the rifle still shoots them accurately but at a slightly lower M.V. compared to the better batch. There is a noticeable difference between the two batches when pushing the loading probe home, best performance comes from the tighter fitting pellets.

Now, the Defiants. For anybody who hasn't seen these pellets in real life, they are jewel like in appearance, shiny and clean, and a different shape to normal 'waisted' dome-headed pellets. After hand-pumping the rifle to 170 bar, I setup a cardboard box at the bottom of the garden at 13 yards - a convenient distance from the comfort of the bamboo-framed sofa in the summer house (yeah I know, I'm full of it) and commenced shooting Defiants into the box.

With the rifle zeroed at 35 yards using Mozzies, after about five or six Defiants through the barrel the point of impact settled to almost exactly the same spot as I would have expected if using Mozzies and it was drilling them 'pellet on pellet' time after time, with no random deviations. The feel, when loading, is they're slightly tighter in the barrel than the better batch of Mozzies mentioned above. Through the chrono, the following results were obtained: 826, 833, 824, 826, 826, 824, 826, 833, 824, 829, extreme spread 9 fps, average 828 fps. On the face of it, another pleasing set of results, boding well for the necessary range accuracy and consistency testing to come.

Even if Defiants prove to be 'as accurate as' Mosquitos, I won't immediately switch to using them, not when I have 13 tins of Mozzies in the cupboard, I'll finish those off first. Assuming Defiants prove to be reliably consistent and accurate, I'll first use them in a club competition and it may yet prove useful to have a 'high speed' pellet if the rifle suffers significant power loss in the winter cold.

Though it's too soon to finalise a conclusion, Defiants are looking good through my EV2 Mk.II, they may work well through yours. Don't you have to try them, or what.

Regards .... Geek

[sniper-wolf]

Hi Paul, the reason the Defiants look like jewels and are very shiny is, they are coated in PTFE. I would recommend washing them in white spirit to remove the PTFE from them, then try the test again.

Very consistent results for you there mate, and well done for second place.

ATB. Neil.

[Gungeek]

Thanks Neil. I didn't know about Defiants being coated in PTFE. I'll have to try them after being washed, because generally my EV2 is less consistent with normal lubricated pellets. Regards ... Geek