Logun Solo .177

[gandalfcat]

Hi all, new to this site.

I have been shooting my Logun Solo for a few weeks now and this is how I feel, and some of the other members of my club that have had a play.

First thing you notice is its light and the stock feels good and solid.
The trigger is one of the best that I have used. It did however take a few shots to get used to the pellet tray. The bolt action is very smooth.
I have finnished it of with AGS 3x9x40 mill-dot and it is very accurate.

If anyone out there is looking to purchase their first PCP then its worth a look.
The single shot aspect is not a major issue if you shoot HFT, but it would be nice to have a multi option is Logun would produce one.

I took the Solo to my club and 2 members have bought one since.
Retail is around £299 and well worth every penny.

Thanks for looking
Les.

[Weevie]

Second that...if you get a good one :rolleyes:

p.s. GandalfCat, stick where you are in your profile or the location police will be after you! ;) :D

[ora8i]

Unfortunately Logan has raised a significant doubt about the current generation of Solo’s.

They are modifying the rifle to include a barrel band this is a major design change, from a free floating barrel to a fixed barrel.

BBS regulars will remember Loguns S16 MK1 fiasco well they are at it again!!!!

Now it may be that technically the majority of rifles so sold are good BUT when the guns with the barrel band arrive ALL the previous guns will be branded as unreliable.

There are two ways of looking at it.

1, Paying customers have been used as Beta Testers and are being asked £35 +P+P to sort out the discovered issues.

2, Logun have taken money out of your pocket. Don’t believe it? Think of the resale value of a S16 MK1.

Although I like my Solo I am disgusted with Loguns attitude to their customers for example a car maker would have been scrambling to recall and sort ALL of the now suspect cars.

I have contacted trading standards and I am currently awaiting their reply.

In the meantime DO NOT BUY A SOLO.

Actually I would recommend against any newly introduced Logun on their track record I would suggest waiting at least two years after a model is introduced before considering purchase.

See Also.

http://www.airgunforum.net/agf/index.php?act=ST&f=1&t=14875&

Regards Ora

[Johnny - Sweden]

But not all Solos will need the barrelband, here in Sweden most Typhoons are sold without them and nobody care about it.

If you are not happy with the accuracy of your rifle, then a barrelband might be worth a try but otherwise - just shoot and be happy...

:)

[ora8i]

Johnny.

Good but not in the gold.

Doubts are raised.

A gun thought good may yet develop this problem.
Any gun with out a band with be a bitch to sell.

So “shoot and be happy” is just burying your head in the sand.

1, You HAVE LOST £ to be more accurate it's been snatched from your pocket!!
2. You may be lumbered with a hard to sell but Nearly New gun that is inaccurate.
3, You swallow it and pay for a barrel band that should either :-

A, Be fitted Free
Or
B, Or not be needed in the first place and so should not have been introduced.

FX guns shoot at high power in the US and are not fitted with a Barrel Band, they are accurate so the band is not needed and not demanded by customers. If bands had been demanded they would have been in use for years.

So it’s not a NEED it’s not a DEMAND it’s a FIX and so should be free to all existing owners.


Regards Ora

[Johnny - Sweden]

Im sorry to say but I cant agree with you there...

Some rifles sold in the US does have the barrelband (Logun Solo at Straightshooters) but some rifles dont (FX Airguns Typhoon at AoA).

Now - do you have a actual problem with inaccuracy in your rifle or are you just worried about the resale value..?

If then, are you about to sell it in the close future..?

From my POW it seems to be a lot of noise for a very simple 'problem'...?

Well...

If it makes you feel bad not having a barrelband (for whatever reason), just give the guys at FX Airguns a call and Im sure they will help you out on this one - regardless of what Logun thinks/does about it.

I view the barrelband as a option for the rifle, just like a soundmoderator, if I have a problem with the rifles crack, then I buy it - if not, I use the rifle as it is...

Not all items 'needed' are in the buy with the rifle..

Not a pelletrey, nor a barrelband...

[gandalfcat]

Many thanks for all you comments.

My Solo may develop a problem in the future and if it does require a barrelband then that is what it will get.

The people at my club are realy great they have given me the chance to try a few different rifles and I still love the way the Solo feels.

So if I do need to get bits done to it in the future then so be it.
If you buy a car and it needs fixing then that's what you do.

I do think that if problems are there from the start then it should be sorted quick and free. Lets drink to not getting any soon.

Thanks
Les

[Thorvald]

I must say that I have had no problems with my Solo at all.

it's a .22 with no brass barrel band.

Maybe not the world's most accurate gun but gives more than adequate groups at 30 yards and is also very light and with a Logun silencer fitted it is the quietest gun I have - you can hardly hear it 15 yards away.

After 1500 pellets the cocking bolt action has become very smooth.

with the tray in I can load without looking anymore. :)

[Nordic Light]

it's a .22 with no brass barrel band.

Sounds like its fitted with the Korea-made barrel and not the LW.

This should explain the lack of accuracy.

[Rumplestiltskin]

Sounds like its fitted with the Korea-made barrel and not the LW.

This should explain the lack of accuracy.


:confused:

Some of the most accurate Barrels I've tried, happen to be Korean (Eun Jin)

[ora8i]

I took the Solo down to Rivvi tonight.

I started out by re-zeroing it and all was well UNTIL I gave the barrel a push with my thumb. Less force that it could easily get going into a gun slip or travelling in the boot of a car i.e. not a lot of force.

I now need to re-zero, standing it in a gun rack while waiting to shoot is going to be a major control effort, in gently not too much, no letting it drop back against the rack - any less attention and I will be re-zeroing again.

I normally move the rifle in a padded hard case so I've not noticed before, well that and not using it often.

How I could get it around a HFT course intact I don't know, all the other PCP's I've owned (Daystate, Falcon, S200 + Stealth) were much more resistant to zero changes.

Looks Like I do need a barrel band :(

Regards Ora

[mikebike]

I started out by re-zeroing it and all was well UNTIL I gave the barrel a push with my thumb. Less force that it could easily get going into a gun slip or travelling in the boot of a car i.e. not a lot of force.

I now need to re-zero

How much is the POI shifted after transport/pushing et.c? :confused:

[ora8i]

It’s bad Mike.

I moved the barrel tip ¼ inch (5mm), maybe a little more and let it snap back; the result was about 1” (25mm) POI change at 20 yards.

The barrel apparently “popped back” but obviously not into its original position, Johnny has suggested that I check the set screws (grub screws) that hold the barrel in place.

If will be Friday at the earliest before I have the chance.

I have had guns loose their zero but never so easily.

Clamped barrels don’t move under gentle finger pressure, it requires a blow that moves the barrel band (A clamp).

That I think is the core of it, the barrel moves very easily, it dose not require much force to make it flex and that means I any going to have to handle it with greater care than any rifle I have ever owned. Effectively an impractical situation were any bump will have me re-zeroing the combo.

Looks like I'll have to check the zero each time I lift it out of the rifle rack :(


I had an S200T MK1 with a floating barrel (no clamp) and I don’t remember having ANY frequent problem with zero loss and I certainly didn’t handle the rifle with any special care nor do I know of any such problems with Rapids.


Regards Ora

[Weevie]

Ora8i

I'll give it a go at Woodlands on Sunday and let you know.

Like I said in another post I'm sure I've knocked the silencer a couple of times and not noticed a significant POI shift.

BTW I wonder if you can give me some advice. On the Solo the second stage is set a little bit light (had a couple of premature ejaculations! :D :eek: ), do I have to do what the instruction manual says and take the action out of the stock or can I adjust the trigger in-situ?

[ninjazx6guyoo4]

hi this is what i said months ago , and everyone said it was ok , but it now looks like i was right about my concerns

logun solo

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hi and merry christmas , ive had a look at a logun solo ,must say nice looking gun and some nice brass bits , picked it up and it shouldered well , nice cocking action , pellet might be a bit fidley to get in , looks like it should have a magazine there , but what stoped me getting my wallet out ( which dosent take much , since the mrs spends enough for both of us ) was my m8 with me at the time , started to move the end of the barrel with 1 finger ,,,,
i saw the berrel move up and down with out much effort , so we tried to move a hornet barrel the same , no movement only if u really pressed on it ,
would this affect the accurrracy when fireing , or should it have a support like a s400 or daystate , surely logun would have checked this out
erns

[Nordic Light]

Looks like I'll have to check the zero each time I lift it out of the rifle rack

This is not acceptable, it seems like its really is a issue with you rifle..

Perhaps time to take it to your dealer...?

[ora8i]

As you know I contacted Trading Standards about my concerns and they have contacted me to say they will be writing to Logun on my behalf.


Regards Ora

[ora8i]

I'm a Solo free zone :D :D :D :D :D

If you want one and they can be lovely rifles to use MAKE SURE IT'S ONE OF THE NEW ONE'S WITH A BARREL BAND FITTED.

Regards Ora

[sniper22]

hi this is what i said months ago , and everyone said it was ok , but it now looks like i was right about my concerns

logun solo

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hi and merry christmas , ive had a look at a logun solo ,must say nice looking gun and some nice brass bits , picked it up and it shouldered well , nice cocking action , pellet might be a bit fidley to get in , looks like it should have a magazine there , but what stoped me getting my wallet out ( which dosent take much , since the mrs spends enough for both of us ) was my m8 with me at the time , started to move the end of the barrel with 1 finger ,,,,
i saw the berrel move up and down with out much effort , so we tried to move a hornet barrel the same , no movement only if u really pressed on it ,
would this affect the accurrracy when fireing , or should it have a support like a s400 or daystate , surely logun would have checked this out
erns
me too, karl at b.a.g.s gave his back to the shop.

[Opticman]

Quite like the look of this gun was wondering if anyone can help me find the best price for a new gun best i can do is 270pounds +post would be greatfull for any info

Swindle :p

[plinker]

I just read Air Gunner today and it reports that the Logan Solo has been voted the best airgun of the year by the shooting industry. Given the comments on this forum how on earth has this happened?

[Opticman]

Thought you might like to know.
As of Sn#6000 Logun Solo/Typhoon have had the housing reworked so as to holed the barrel much tighter! In most cases (guns before Sn#6000 )if your are having barrel movement problems Logun/FX will post you free of charge a barrel clamp they will not say its a problem but will give you a clamp to help elevate the situation. Not sure this is going to make Pre6000 owners any happier but they have fixed the problem they were getting with some guns

Let’s wait and see if the 6000+ models are really any better!

Anyone got one? :mad:

[ex-squaddie]

For very little extra cost i would just get an S400 or even a BSA Hornet.
Both accurate, reliable rifles(although the Hornet is a bit heavy).
Andy
I went down the route of the PCR1 fiasco.

[ora8i]

Well I got rid of my pre-6K gun because of zero shift problems at the time Logun wanted £35 + 2X(P+P) to sort it :mad:.

If they had offered a free fix I would still have the gun, I liked it a lot I was sorry to see Logun let the Solo down.

Regards Ora

[Elliott Ness]

Hi guys,

I have a Solo and I must say it shoots superbly!! :D I use mine for hunting and HFT and no problem. I have various rifles and must say that they cost a great deal more and in some situations, the solo is a better tool light and quick to shoulder. I believe there is a very small bracket on the way, so if you are not happy with a floating barrel you can tighten it down.

the other rifle in that market is the S200 which to me looks cheap! stock looks like cheap bit of 2 by 4 and a plastic bolt!!?

I would definatley recomend the solo

[wusross]

hi i have just read youre post on the logun solo is it as good as people say thinking of buying one from drapers dont know if it has a band on the barrel does this matter if you have any problems with it could you let me know

cheers wus

[mikewareing]

Well I have had a solo in 0.177 for about a year now and I must agree that it required a barrel band, however once I fitted it, it is my favourite rifle, I even prefer it to my Daystate X2 (which I have just sold).
What is everybodys problem?

It is a superb rifle!

[Recurve]

Our Solo (self and SWMBO) didn't have a barrel band on when we got it, and although we didn't have any problems I felt that I wanted the band on for extra support/security. They are about an extra £15 which I thought was a good investment.

It is worth noting however, that if you do fit a band, make sure it is done up very firmly. If you have the securing screws just nipping up, if you do nudge the barrel then the band can slip slightly and actually hold the barrel out of line.

[trigger05]

i said the same thing to my mate when he got his one and made him buy the barrel suport like i did and i hardly ever have to zero in and now with the new 10 multi shot i cant realy see a problem with the gun but im still undecided about what is best 177 or 22

[trigger05]

i think that solo should give u the choice when u buy the gun to have a barrel band for free

[Super Shooter]

Er they do give you the option you either buy or you dont - simple.I have tried with and without and didnt really notice the difference if you are unsure then fit it you cant go wrong then - here endeth the lesson (ha ha good old sean connery).:D