Best rifle I've shot

[Gary C]

I shot a MK3 Sport at 30ft/lb

Superbly accurate, 50 shots per charge. It is like shooting a target rifle.
The balance is excellent as well. Mag system superb, MK3 safety needs no introduction.

It will turn down to about 14ft.lb for ratting and close stuff

Daystate back up.

This will be my next rifle

[Liam]

Have you Tried a S400 Xtra? what do you think of them? A mate of mine has one and the only thing I don't like is the trigger

[Gary C]

It's not in the same universe.

Xtra is far too long, unbalanced and the trigger is crap. The extra pressure on the sears makes it feel like an unmodded CZ

But then it's a lot cheaper, so it's not apples and apples

[Liam]

True about the length, its like a muzzleloading shotgun

[Rapidnick]

Sounds good Gary. As I haven't shot one all I can say is that my tweaked Rapid 2 FAC is the best air rifle I have ever used. :D

[Snapshot]

Have you Tried a S400 Xtra? what do you think of them? A mate of mine has one and the only thing I don't like is the triggerOnly 30 good shots per charge and a poor power curve. I'd like to try one with Ben Taylor's regulator in as he claims 60 shots per charge and it should take the load off the sears too. However it does then become somewhat pricey and an FAC Rapid starts to look preferable.

Jonathan

[lionel]

I have the regulated RT version of the Daystate FAC and it's an awesomely accurate rifle. It's one of the best rifles for standing shots I have ever used. Not quite as powerful as the Sport but extremely refined and still good out to 80 yards + in the right conditions.

Lionel

[Gary C]

Sorry guys while the Rapid has it's legion of diehard fans, so does the VW beetle.

This beats it in pretty much every department except shot count. But then when do you need more than 50?

[Acenorth.]

Don't you own a FAC Super10 Gary? How do you rate that against the Daystate?

Cheers

Ian :rolleyes:

[Tomahawkss]

Ah Gary I am glad you have seen the light, ;) when do you get your new gun then?
Andy

[Gary C]

Don't you own a FAC Super10 Gary? How do you rate that against the Daystate?

Cheers

Ian :rolleyes:

Like a 1975 RS2000 against a Mitsubishi EVO

The RS was nice. My S10 will be sold

[kev hughes]

As probably the biggest Rapid lover (Next to Sparky) I got to say I have an FAC MK3 on order. The Rapid is up for sale and I'm going for a test drive of a 30ft/lb next week. Cant wait to sell the Rapid ( Never thought I'd hear my self say that).


Kev

[lionel]

Rapid still wins if we're talking mega power. I have a Rapid17 running at 40 fpe that reaches places no Mk3 could. Otherwise I agree, The Mk3 beats the standard Rapid in most departments.

Stock design: mk3
Trigger: mk3
Versatility: mk3 - wonderful power adjustor
Consistency: about the same
Shot count: Rapid
Magazine reliability, useability - Rapid
Accuracy: MK3 effortlessly shoots fantastic groups. Rapid needs more concentration and discipline.
After sales: Daystate
Reliability: Daystate
Value retention: Rapid. The mk3 hasn't captured many hearts yet and regular updates of the mk3 technology make older MK3s obsolete and practically worthless. If Daystate offered a cheap update service for owners, this would solve this problem.


Some airgunners will never warm to a rifle like the mk3, no matter how good it is, because they would never enjoy a rifle that they can't repair and fettle themselves. For people who just love shooting, the Mk3 takes some beating. If Daystate offered a very high powered buddy bottle version - an Air Ranger with the electronic benefits of the mk3, I think it would kill the Rapid stone dead.

Lionel

[Al Buck]

If Daystate offered a very high powered buddy bottle version - an Air Ranger with the electronic benefits of the mk3, I think it would kill the Rapid stone dead.

Lionel

Like the new Daystate AirWolf (http://www.airgunbuyer.com/webnews.asp?ID=346) ;)

[lionel]

Christ - I thought that was a wind-up! I feel another wallet disaster coming on!

Lionel

[Rapidnick]

Slightly off track BUT that GC ambi stock looks fantastic. So why oh why don't ALL manufacturers supply rifles with ambi stocks as standard?? Surely it would save on production costs as an important item is standardised. :(

[Gary C]

Christ - I thought that was a wind-up! I feel another wallet disaster coming on!

Lionel

Just walked into that one eh Wolfie? ;)

Don't know how you think the Rapid mag is better than the MK3 when the MK3 had no cocking involved.. :)

[Pavel]

Like the new Daystate AirWolf (http://www.airgunbuyer.com/webnews.asp?ID=346) ;)


Yeah, I'd heard about that development last weekend. Looks very nice, also looks VERY expensive. At that price I'd want the kitchen sink. ;)

As for the best rifle I've ever shot, that would have to be the Steyr Scout 7.62mm. Kicks like a mule and totally OTT but I love them. Obviously not an air-rifle but hey you never said anything about not posting real guns. :)

[lionel]

Just walked into that one eh Wolfie? ;)

Don't know how you think the Rapid mag is better than the MK3 when the MK3 had no cocking involved.. :)

I wasn't talking about the cocking action - which as you say, is much better on the Daystate. The Daystate mag is first class but in my experience, it's slightly fiddlier to load, because the pellets need an extra bit of "finger probing" to get them properly seated. Once loaded, the mag works perfectly on the rifle - just like the Rapid's.

I would say that the Rapid S and MFR is slightly more user-friendly when it comes to swapping over to single shot operation. The Daystate needs a tray slotted in, while with the Rapid, you can just thumb a pellet straight into the breech - very handy if a rabbit appears when your mag is empty. Small point, but with rifles in this super league - it's the small things that matter.

Lionel

[Gary C]

it's the small things that matter.

Lionel

Indeed
Except that the Rapid isn't in the same league as your check list showed.
So the Rapid wins the single shot option
MK3 wins every other department

I think I'll buy the MK3 and a spare mag. just in case I run out :D

[lionel]

Indeed
Except that the Rapid isn't in the same league as your check list showed.
So the Rapid wins the single shot option
MK3 wins every other department

I think I'll buy the MK3 and a spare mag. just in case I run out :D

yep - a spare mag would solve the problem.

Any idea on the Airwolfie's max power? I hope they don't make the higher power versions "export only" like the Air Ranger. I'm concerned that they're being intimidated by their local FLO, who wants them to tame their rifles intended for domestic ticket holders. This is what happened to Ripley and I suspect Daystate fall under the same authority. This requirement is of course completely unlawful and would fall apart if challenged. I suggest if Daystate is having trouble in this regard they should contact BASC.

Lionel

[Dead_eye]

I didnt think id ever see another air rifle bah the ripleys cross the 1000 readys mark :eek: so looks worth it though!
Any one wana buy my family?

[lionel]

I didnt think id ever see another air rifle bah the ripleys cross the 1000 readys mark :eek: so looks worth it though!
Any one wana buy my family?

Have you seen the price of the Stalker rifles. The average price is around £1500 :eek:

Lionel

[baz]

I rate the Daystates very highly too, along with Rapids, each has better points over each other IMO

But if I need more than 30ftlb I take a rimfire, no messing, and endless shots, if no saftety problems then no airgun comes close for rabbit control :p

I shot so many rabbits last night I had to phone for help to pick em up :eek:

Baz

[BoNeS]

having owned both i think the only advantage the rapid has is the mag

far better than the daystate one for ease of use but the gun itself is in a totally different leauge

no comparision i am going to get a rapid in fac but only coz i cant afford the mk3

if i had the cash would be mk3 all the way

[baz]

I agree with Mark on most points, however I find the MFR at FAC is also better handling than my MK3, mind you it feels half the weight!

I cant comment on the Sport as I aint used one but from what I have heard it certainly sounds the leader, at the moment ;)

Baz

[Chris St. MH]

I haven't handled a Mk3 (owned a Mk1 Huntsman though). I love Daystates but the Rapids' (Mk1 and 2) handling is in a different league.

[lionel]

having owned both i think the only advantage the rapid has is the mag

far better than the daystate one for ease of use but the gun itself is in a totally different leauge

no comparision i am going to get a rapid in fac but only coz i cant afford the mk3

if i had the cash would be mk3 all the way

My FAC Daystate MK3 is in the for sale section Bones - and it's the deluxe RT model :)

Lionel

[lionel]

I have an MFR and a Daystate MK3 - both FAC. The MFR is far nicer to carry around , just because it's so light, but when it comes to aiming at quarry - the MK3 just seems to lock onto the target. I always feel more confident on aim with the Mk3. It's a heavy gun but very well balanced.

Lionel

[BoNeS]

My FAC Daystate MK3 is in the for sale section Bones - and it's the deluxe RT model :)

Lionel

yes i have seen it lionel

however after looking in the bank unless you can lower the price to about 14 pence it a non starter at the moment :D

[lionel]

yes i have seen it lionel

however after looking in the bank unless you can lower the price to about 14 pence it a non starter at the moment :D

14 pence is tempting Bones, but I'll pass. Have you considered raising the money by turning to crime?

Lionel ;)

[BoNeS]

14 pence is tempting Bones, but I'll pass. Have you considered raising the money by turning to crime?

Lionel ;)

dont know what you mean lionel

i deliver around tooting everyday so would think you know more about that than me living there :D

[lionel]

dont know what you mean lionel

i deliver around tooting everyday so would think you know more about that than me living there :D


I quite like the idea of myself as a Saarf London "gangsta". I'd better get me some bling. :D

Lionel

[Rapidnick]

yep - a spare mag would solve the problem.

Any idea on the Airwolfie's max power? I hope they don't make the higher power versions "export only" like the Air Ranger. I'm concerned that they're being intimidated by their local FLO, who wants them to tame their rifles intended for domestic ticket holders. This is what happened to Ripley and I suspect Daystate fall under the same authority. This requirement is of course completely unlawful and would fall apart if challenged. I suggest if Daystate is having trouble in this regard they should contact BASC.

Lionel

Not sure that you are right there Lionel. The Police when granting a FAC slot, consider the weapons on the market and slot them into 'categories'-.22 air, .22 rimfire etc. They know what the various categories of rifle can achieve and grant FACs accordingly. How else is it to be done? Once air weapons reach rimfire power levels then the Police are entitled to exclude certain models from the blanket FAC air slot. Otherwise, granting of FACs would become 'model specific' which would be a real pain in the ar$e! :(

[lionel]

Not sure that you are right there Lionel. The Police when granting a FAC slot, consider the weapons on the market and slot them into 'categories'-.22 air, .22 rimfire etc. They know what the various categories of rifle can achieve and grant FACs accordingly. How else is it to be done? Once air weapons reach rimfire power levels then the Police are entitled to exclude certain models from the blanket FAC air slot. Otherwise, granting of FACs would become 'model specific' which would be a real pain in the ar$e! :(

I see your reasoning Nick but as I understand it, there is no legislation that entitles the police to limit power levels on FAC air rifles.

Lionel

[Rapidnick]

I see your reasoning Nick but as I understand it, there is no legislation that entitles the police to limit power levels on FAC air rifles.

Lionel
Mmmmm-interesting point. However I don't believe that under current laws a citizen has an automatic right to a FAC. This means that the shooters choice is either ACCEPT power reductions in air weapons OR we will have air rifles automatically lumped in with .22 rimfire. This in turn would surely result in a sharply reduced number of FACs authorised. I think the choice is that simple. :(

[Rapidnick]

I quite like the idea of myself as a Saarf London "gangsta". I'd better get me some bling. :D

Lionel
I hear that Uzi is collaborating with Whiscombe so you should soon be alright!! :)

[lionel]

The land I shoot over is passed for centrefire, so there is no reason why the police would impose restrictions on how much power I could have in FAC air. Even if you own full bore rifles, Ripley will not sell you their 50 fpe model - even if your certificate states there is no power restriction. You could probably get around it by arranging for a US agent to import the 50 fpe Ripley and then getting him to export it to an RFD here, but you shouldn't have to - the restriction clearly shouldn't apply.

Lionel

[lionel]

I hear that Uzi is collaborating with Whiscombe so you should soon be alright!! :)


And I thought that Whiscombe was going to be tasteful :D

[Steyr]

Like the new Daystate AirWolf (http://www.airgunbuyer.com/webnews.asp?ID=346) ;)


Ugly Tho especially from the trigger onwards

[BoNeS]

ok if it has to the be best rifle i have shot and not best air rifle

it has to the a nesika tooley custom ackley improved chambered in 6.5x55 swedish that belongs to Dave AKA viperteks

5 shots 1 hole easily at the 100 yards and i am told these action are accurate as an accurate thing out to god knows what