price pizzz take

[langbaybart]

Remington Genesis 1000x
england £225 http://www.surplusstore.co.uk/catalo...oducts_id/1495
usa $ 205 http://www.airgunexpress.com/Special...15-48-7565.htm
about 2 dollers to the pound some one sed

so thats a woping £120 to ship it here an get through customs
are dealers haveing a laff or wot!!!!!!!!!!!!!

have seen them for 175$ as well come on dealers justify twice the price

[Home Brew]

It's bloody stupid I know mate. The Crosman guns are half the price over there too .

Ralph

[snock]

And they're rubbish compared to guns.

[Mad Pierre]

It's about $1.78 to the £ today.
Now allow for cost of currency conversion and the import tax that dealers pay for the priviledge of being British.


and there goes their profit.

[langbaybart]

when we send bsa`s and uther guns to the us do thay pay twice the price for are gun , any one in the us give us a clue texasprowdad (sorry)

[bingo_beans]

$205 and a free tin of pellets too.

[Rob M]

SOG Powerlock multi-tool, American made, quality,

US Price $65 - $75
UK Price £80

Go figure, as they say in America! Rip-off Britain again IMO

[langbaybart]

ripoff britain strikes again , by the way what gun was it so we can all go and confrunt the manifactura.

[Keef]

SOG Powerlock multi-tool, American made, quality,

US Price $65 - $75
UK Price £80

Go figure, as they say in America! Rip-off Britain again IMO

Look at the figures for this.

The price of the Multi tool in the US is $75. This includes dealer profit at say 15%, so the manufacturers price is $65.20.

It gets ordered by the UK importer. The cost of bringing here is say $8.00. Customs charge some import duty on it at 4%. The cost to the importer is now $76.13. at todays exchange rate this is £42.80.

The importer wants a profit, typically 30%. This is not an unreasonable figure bearing in mind the cost of staff and possibly sales reps. This takes the cost to £55.64.

The shop where you buy it purchases it from the importer and has to pay postage on the tool at say £3.00 (Frequently the min charge) so the shop pays £58 64 for the tool.

The shop wants 25% profit margin on it so the cost goes up to £69.55. The tight Jock wants his cut from the sale as well so add 17.5% VAT and the final price of the tool in the shop, to you is £81.72.

You might think that a 25% profit margin is a bit steep but think about it. The shop owner wants to earn £15,000 per year. He has to pay business costs which will break down into some thing like this per year:

Rates £1000
Electric £400
Heating £400
Telephone £400
Rent on shop £5000
Insurance £500
Bank charges and fees £800
Accountant £500
Minimum cost total £9000
Salary £15000
Total £24000 per year.

If the shop is working on a 25% mark up that means the shop has to sell £112800 of goods in a year to achieve this. Additionally if you use a credit card to buy from the shop the card company will take typically 3% of the sale. So if the shop does 50% of its sale on credit card then the turn over has to go up to £114492. That's £2201 per week every week of the year.

This assumes that the shop is a one man band with no staff to allow the owner a day off. If the owner takes a holiday then the sales per week have to go up to compensate.

Lastly, how many of you earn more than £15,000 a year or how many of you would work six days a week, 9 to 6 to earn £15,000. That's only £5.34 per hour.

Rip off Britain is not always as rip off as you might believe.

[Craig-P]

Nicely illustrated Keef.

[Kingplinker]

The Surplus store is my local shop ....... sadly very overpriced !!!

Thats why I go elsewhere

[Ted601]

I agree that the cost are cheaper over there, but here you really do have to look around at prices some of the prices on internat stores are so over the top even one of my local gunshops prices are 25% to 30% dearer then JSR But it would be intresting to know if you could order from the USA and see how much you save


Ted

[HotShot]

Look at the figures for this.

The price of the Multi tool in the US is $75. This includes dealer profit at say 15%, so the manufacturers price is $65.20.

It gets ordered by the UK importer. The cost of bringing here is say $8.00. Customs charge some import duty on it at 4%. The cost to the importer is now $76.13. at todays exchange rate this is £42.80.

The importer wants a profit, typically 30%. This is not an unreasonable figure bearing in mind the cost of staff and possibly sales reps. This takes the cost to £55.64.

The shop where you buy it purchases it from the importer and has to pay postage on the tool at say £3.00 (Frequently the min charge) so the shop pays £58 64 for the tool.

The shop wants 25% profit margin on it so the cost goes up to £69.55. The tight Jock wants his cut from the sale as well so add 17.5% VAT and the final price of the tool in the shop, to you is £81.72.

You might think that a 25% profit margin is a bit steep but think about it. The shop owner wants to earn £15,000 per year. He has to pay business costs which will break down into some thing like this per year:

Rates £1000
Electric £400
Heating £400
Telephone £400
Rent on shop £5000
Insurance £500
Bank charges and fees £800
Accountant £500
Minimum cost total £9000
Salary £15000
Total £24000 per year.

If the shop is working on a 25% mark up that means the shop has to sell £112800 of goods in a year to achieve this. Additionally if you use a credit card to buy from the shop the card company will take typically 3% of the sale. So if the shop does 50% of its sale on credit card then the turn over has to go up to £114492. That's £2201 per week every week of the year.

This assumes that the shop is a one man band with no staff to allow the owner a day off. If the owner takes a holiday then the sales per week have to go up to compensate.

Lastly, how many of you earn more than £15,000 a year or how many of you would work six days a week, 9 to 6 to earn £15,000. That's only £5.34 per hour.

Rip off Britain is not always as rip off as you might believe.

Good post Keef - now can someone do the maths and explain the other comment from above:-

just done a random search for a very popular British rifle and put the prices through a currency converter.
US converted price £354
UK price-----------£459


Dave.

[Keef]

Good post Keef - now can someone do the maths and explain the other comment from above:-

just done a random search for a very popular British rifle and put the prices through a currency converter.
US converted price £354
UK price-----------£459


Dave.

Dave if you or Wobbleshot PM me the make and model of rifle I will see if I can work out some figures for comparison.

Don't forget that the UK price will vary from shop to shop depending on how many rifles are ordered. The more that are ordered, in general the bigger the discount on the trade price. Also a larger order will be carriage free in UK so ordering say six rifles and getting a 10% discount and not paying say £12.00 carriage on rifles that retail for £500 means the large order shop can sell for £52 less and still make the same profit (approx figures)

[Mad Pierre]

also bear in mind when dealing with the US, they have more people eligible to buy more gear, consequently a bigger market place drives prices down. Life standards also vary from state to state as does cost of living and salaries, as an example I earned $18K in Oklahoma State in 1990, the same wage for an equivalent position in the UK was £18K....... so my salary was 0.7 of the equivalent UK salary but on average, so was my cost of living.