Rekord trigger adjustment

[electric sheep]

I can adjust mine to an ounce after following Paul Hudsons excellent tuning guide.

[supersonic]

I can adjust mine to an ounce after following Paul Hudsons excellent tuning guide.

I've no doubt you can, but how much sear engagement is there left ?

[electric sheep]

I havn't measured it but enough to keep it safe.

[supersonic]

Paul- I hope you've been taking notes: you may be able to obtain copyright and put it in your guide.

Theres also an excellent guide at http://www.airgunforum.net/agf/index.php?showtopic=2372 Not sure if its accessible to non members.

My method is not the best, though it seems to work for me. I do still agree that taking the whole trigger out first is really the best way.

[Paul Hudson]

LOL

Can I just remind folk that the original question was how to increase the "weight" of the second stage on the Rekord. I think we've covered that one quite nicely.

Edited to add - that link to Airgun Forum is excellent, but I'd just like to point out that one of the diagrams is incorrect

Paul.

[supersonic]

You mean the location of spring 50i ?

[Paul Hudson]

Yep .

I think also, it's worth pointing out, in Mr Sheep's defence, that his trigger is the result of LOTS of work, not just straightforward adjustment. It was adjustment that Mr Scouser was asking about.

Paul.

[forgeron]

Supersonic - is it possible that you are talking about a slightly different trigger unit the HW Schiene acht? it was suppoosed to be the successor to the Rekord but wasn't in production very long, never really took off?

[Rich]

The torx screw in the later triggers is a T8. You may have to buy the driver separately as this size is not normally included in boxed sets of torx drivers.

They are available through specialist tool merchants.

[Retracted_Yeti]

Best not to put a pellet in it (esp. if working indoors ), if it does go off one dry-fire is not really likely to damage it.

Sorry disagree with that one,

Dry fired my 95k ONCE!..

Bent the mainspring!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cheers.

Roy.

[I. J.]

PERSONALLY - I take the trigger unit out of the action. I feel safer that way. I also (now after reading a comment somewhere) stop the top sear from flying upwards with the use of a small allen key through the side plates.
(You will know what I mean if you've ever set one.)

HTH
Ian

[supersonic]

Supersonic - is it possible that you are talking about a slightly different trigger unit the HW Schiene acht? it was suppoosed to be the successor to the Rekord but wasn't in production very long, never really took off?

Don't think so, I've done a couple the same way, one on a '77, the other on a '35.

I do agree that taking the trigger out is best, but if you do want to adjust it in-situ my method of first backing off the preload a bit does allow you to get a better feel for the second stage release point so you can adjust out any creep, but not go too much further. When you then crank up the preload to the proper level again, the trigger should then be crisp and safe, albeit not quite as light as is possible with a finer adjustment method.

I don't think my method will work with the trigger out of the action, because it relies on the release point being quite firm, which is mostly due to the mechanism being under the full pressure of the cocked mainspring, thereby increasing the friction holding the sears together. With the trigger out of the action I don't think the release point would be so easy to judge, though you can at least observe the sears through the hole in the side.

But maybe I've just been lucky, and it won't always work so well for others, I'm definitely no expert at this.

[electric sheep]

Dry fires are a serious lottery, you may get away with it but often even one will bannana the spring. You also get alot of combustion when dry firing.

[Rich]

I found that adjusting the trigger of my relatively new 80 with it removed from the rifle, I could get a fine second stage setting that then did not engage when the trigger was re-installed and the force of the cocked spring was to be held back. All I had was a long first stage with a vague release point, which was disconcerting.

It's better to err on the heavy side I think if you are setting up outside the gun, to allow for this.

Rich

[huntsman]

At least your scope was properly zeroed rather than shooting 3 clicks right That's my excuse anyway

Surprised The Man with the L H Airwolf & a 3 legged donkey didn't explain every inch of the 77 in all that time

Well shot anyway - Watching that has got me thinking about resurrecting my HW35. -

David