So what do these bracketing charts look like then ?

[Shed tuner]

I'm imagining a chart which says:

Target type: Knockover
Shape: squiggle
Armpit-to-backside distance: 123mm
Dots: 3 at 40

x 50 for every range, target type and shape
Anyone care to share please - I'm way too lazy myself

[TheShootist]

All the normal nockover targets regardless of what animal / bird or kill zone size use the same mechanism (with the exception of the H frame ones) so it's usually kill centre to hinge bolt centre line (some use base but it's often more obscured) in mil dots for a given range.

Regards
Tony

[Rich]

We've arranged the apertures of some of our reducer plates not to be concentric with the main KZ. This still allows the target to fall properly when hit but gives the "wrong" height of KZ above the hinge.

[ONLY oneT]

well here's what mine looks like, its a multi-coloured jobie but when i pasted it over its B&W and i cant be arsed to change it.
basically i shot round with someone at shepreth months ago and they used one and got a 59 or 58 so i thought thats an idea and did one myself, i am however on to a new plan and only really use it to judge the real short ones.


Squirrel Rabbit Magpie Crow Rat Yards
2 wide 3 4 wide ALL 3 ½ 8
3 high 2 ½ 3 high 4 wide 3 10
3½ high 2 2½ high 3 wide 2 15
2 high 1 ½ 2 high 3 line 1 ½ 20
1½ high 1 ¼ 1½ high 2¼wide 1 ¼ 25
1 wide 1 wide 1 wide 1 wide 1 35
1¼ high B T 1 high 2 wide 1 30
1 high T T 1 high T B 2 40
1 wide 1 wide ¾ high 1 wide 1 ¾ 45

TAIL BODY HEAD TAIL GAP EARS HEIGHT


maT

it has also gone out of line and would normaly be in neat rows

[Backache]

I'm losing the will to live here, forchristsakes it only a game! if you really want to get technical go sit on a tuffet, play with FT and twiddle scopes all day long

But if you really want to do some serious shooting get a proper gun and go and play with it at Bisley or any of the other ranges in the UK.

Nev

[Darren Petts]

I have this stuck to the outside of my rear butler. The aimpoints go inside. I only ever refer to it if I think my rangeing by eye has been decieved as too many targets are now modified to rely on bracketing.
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/2...sranger9ln.jpg

[The Pie Man]

Dont beat around the bush Nev ,just say what you mean

[Backache]

Dont beat around the bush Nev just say what you mean

[ross H]

is it just me or do these bracketting charts look well complicated, if i know the size of the kill i bracket for anythingh i think is over 40 yards, the one with differnt type knockdownes sounds a bit ott

[TheShootist]

Here's the one I did for both ordinary nockover and gamo targets... Just for reference really... dont carry anything around.

Knockover Chart

As I am pretty minimalist when shooting HFT... no charts... no aim point reminders... no target gloves... no bean bag...

Tony

[ross H]

that looks better tony, i can understand it, so if the kill zones are moved everyone that brackets the whole plate is up a certain creek, bring on differnt kill positions

[TheShootist]

that looks better tony, i can understand it, so if the kill zones are moved everyone that brackets the whole plate is up a certain creek, bring on differnt kill positions

Yep, many clubs are doing so already... just need a few targets that have been 'Doctored' with the kill zone centre moved relative to it's usual position and in some cases an odd size too. To throw doubt in the ranging of all the targets by bracketing.

A good move in my opinion as you then have to rely on the Mk I eyeball...

Regards
Tony

[Shed tuner]

Cheers all, interesting

[ianps]

Not following any of this nonsence, way too complicated.
I dont shoot competitive HFT but surely the whole idea is to replicate hunting in the feild and therefore primarily accuratetly judging your quarry's distance so as to ensure a clean kill. If your going to use this bracketing chart nonsence then you may as well have an AO scope and shoot FT. We seem to be getting away from the fundamental aspect of Air rifles and more interested in the win. One of the reasons I retired from competitive Clay shooting (To national standards) was because of the high level of pressure to perform. I really enjoy my lone shooting now and have often considered giving HFT a go however if this is what its all about I may as well spend a couple of grand on a FT rig and shoot to win instead.
I may be missing something of course because as I say I have not acctuatly shot HFT.
Ian

[Rich]

Not EVERYBODY shoots HFT to win, much as not EVERYBODY shoots FT to win.

Most folk want to do well, which is natural and to be applauded. In FT and HFT, your own worst enemy is you, not the person you're doing the course with. If you can master your own imperfections, you will do as well your own ability will allow.

Only one person in each competition can come first. Does that mean the rest go home fed up with their day out? Certainly not.

In any competitive sport you will get those who strive for the tiniest apparent technical advantage. The governing body just has to set some rules as to how far these extremes are tolerated. In this case that has been done with clarity.