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    Question HW77 twang

    Folks,

    My HW77 has the stage 1 Venom kit fitted (by me) and until very recently all seemed perfectly wonderful etc...just as you might expect.

    However, I have now fitted an adaptor and Parker-Hale MM2 silencer and I can now hear a slight twang on shooting.

    The question is - Was this always there and I can just hear it now because there is a definate sound deadening effect from the silencer ?...Or has something else happened ?

    Can anyone offer a suggestion before I strip the rifle and have a look ?

    Many thanks + ATB

    Philip.
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    Its a springer aint it? There will always be a bit of twang. You could try some Maccari tar on the spring.

    Gus
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    Talking Indeed...

    you are probably right and I am just being overly critical / sensitive.

    I really didn't think that the silencer would make too much difference, but have been proven wrong. While zeroing last night I noticed that several Collared Doves on the bird table barely flinched despite my zero target being very close by...and these fellows are usually very twitchy !

    I might just strip it, clean and re-lube anyway.

    Cheers + ATB

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    On springs, I use Motorcycle Chain Wax, it's more readily available, in an aerosol. It's heavy, "sticks like the proverbial," and lasts a long time. Regards ... Geek

    p.s. This very hot and humid weather is 'bad news' for 'springers.'
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    Talking Hey...

    Mr Geek,

    How are you Sir ?

    Long time...etc...

    Your suggestion that the hot weather is bad for spring powered guns... is that because the heat can cause the grease to melt or maybe thin a little and so become less effective ??

    I guess you are constantly adjusting your PCPs as well then ?

    ATB

    Philip.
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    Do Not Disturb

    Until you have removed the new additions and fired the rifle.
    Perhaps the adaptor/silencer has just shifted the vibration into an audible frequency - all spring guns vibrate.
    If it's shooting, well leave it alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwylan
    Its a springer aint it? There will always be a bit of twang. You could try some Maccari tar on the spring.

    Gus
    I would go for the Maccari Tar as well.
    Easy to get via his website

    Pay by Paypal or credit card, usually turns up within a week.

    ATB
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    Scopes and silencers can twang. I have a Venom 97 and the Tasco Varmint on there rings/resonates. At first I thought it was the rifle 'til i shot without scope.

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    Agree with POK!
    In 1997 I put a Simmons 6.5-20x44 on my lazaglide 77 and it rang like a bell
    There's a big coil spring behind the objective lens and on that scope it resonated like a tuning fork, in fact I think it was a middle 'C'.
    I got a replacement which was much better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam77K
    Agree with POK!
    In 1997 I put a Simmons 6.5-20x44 on my lazaglide 77 and it rang like a bell
    There's a big coil spring behind the objective lens and on that scope it resonated like a tuning fork, in fact I think it was a middle 'C'.
    I got a replacement which was much better.
    If you gathered a few twangers together Adam you could start an instrumental group and call it The Twangers. or The Spring-fields.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luddite
    If you gathered a few twangers together Adam you could start an instrumental group and call it The Twangers. or The Spring-fields.
    No far better: the Objective Bell-Ends
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    I have a funny feeling its the anti-bear trap that is making the little twang on mine.
    Might take it off one day to see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by POK!
    Scopes and silencers can twang. I have a Venom 97 and the Tasco Varmint on there rings/resonates. At first I thought it was the rifle 'til i shot without scope.
    Yeah right, I've got a Simmons 'scope that makes a really unnerving noise, when mounted on a springer, scared the c**p out of me, at first. Regards ... Geek
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam77K
    Agree with POK!
    In 1997 I put a Simmons 6.5-20x44 on my lazaglide 77 and it rang like a bell
    I've got a Simmons 44 Mag on my 0.20" cal. HW77, it makes not a sound. It was an '8 Point' 'scope which vibrated and sounded like a galvanised dustbin full of marbles being hit with a lump hammer. Regards ... Geek
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    Try shimming the inside of the piston with a sleeve of either beer can metal or milk bottle plastic, depending on the clearance between spring and piston. Guinness original and low fat [Green top] are my top choices.

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