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    You,ve bought a great gun, well underrated, saw a recent thread comparing Air Wolf and Rapid magazine systems, to put it in perspective, both are poor compared to the HW100 magazine. Simplicity itself. The single shot adapter is easy to use as well.

    I fitted a Venom cylinder to mine which really improves the balance of the gun, and have also swapped the original ambi stock for a sporter stock. The cheek piece brings your eye more naturally to the scope, I have also cut a thumb grove in behind the action which gives it a more positive hold.

    Adjustable butt plates are available from BAR (approx£12)

    Enjoy

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    I've recently bought an HW100S with Venom cylinder and sold my AAS400 & S410k.
    The Weihrauch is more consistent but just as accurate as the AirArms and the trigger is so much smoother.

    I originally bought the S400 for HFT and felt the Weihrauch should do at least as well and with its trigger and single shot adapter, possibly better. I was reluctant to sell the 410k because it was perfect for hunting, but the HW100 is just as compact, albeit a little heavier, but with more shots and a better magazine. In fact it comes with 2 magazines that cannot double load and with a sling, the weight isn't a problem.

    So I now have one rifle that easily replaces two and probably surpasses both in build quality and performance.

    Like Kerplunk says in his review, there's no power curve - all shots are at the same power (until it's below about 90bar - then the power suddenly drops.) There is a regulator to control the pressure - this seems a simple device, but so much the better - it certainly works well.

    I use AA Field pellets and find these to be very consistent, but it would be interesting to know what other users think about other makes of pellet in this rifle.
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    Really useful review, I am now torn between s410 and HW 100.
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    I have AA s410 in .22 and .177 as well as an HW100s in .22, and must say that the one one most used is the HW100. I have fitted a Venow cylinder which makes it better balanced and a little lighter. I have used a Pellpax sample pack for each of my guns and come back to using AA Field pellets in all of them, still got to try JSB pellets yet. I may well sell both AA to get another HW100s in .177.

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    The HW100T has been my reintroduction to air-guns after a break of twenty some years. Bit of a change from my Webley Osprey! Like the OP, I found the quality superb when I unpacked the box a few weeks ago, and I too like the heft of the gun. I'm probably not the only one who tends to equate weight with quality.

    I don't find taking out and replacing the air cylinder particularly onerous, and I ensure the threads engage the right way by standing the rifle on it's butt, lowering the cylinder into place only using gravity and turn it between thumb and fore-finger which so far has ensured trouble free threading each time.

    I'm shooting in .177, and having used a Pellpax selection of 38 different types of pellets, found Daystate FT in 4.52mm to give the best 10 shot group of a little over 1/4" at 28 yards bench rested (although not on a stand). Quite simply, this level of accuracy is a complete revelation.

    Shooting at Lincs HFT club last night (with my wife having a try) I realise quite how quiet the latest Weihrauch silencer is, with it being barely audible at more than a couple of yards. I was also able to hear how well in compared with other rifles at the same time.

    The gun as delivered was tending to creep a tad over 12 ft lbs with the H&N's I have been using, and being that kind of guy, I researched power adjustment and tweeked it down a smidge.

    I am getting a very flat trajectory from about 15 yards out to 30 plus, with a drop at 40 yards of almost exactly 1 mil in the scope.

    Weihrauch were one of the brands I lusted after when I was a lad, plinking in the back garden with my brother's 'Diana' (It was one where you removed the end of the muzzle, together with about a 7-8" barrel, and put the pellet in the back end of the barrel before screwing it back into place. Does anyone else remember those?). My years of waiting were well rewarded, and I feel my hours spent poring over computer reviews were justified.

    I am quite sure the gun will be able to outshoot me, and enjoyed my first meander round the HFT range. I will almost certainly have a go at competitions as well as doing a bit of hunting.

    Phil

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    I shoot the .22 version and find Crossman AccuPell very good. The one thing I do like is that the safety switch can only be activated when there is a pellet loaded. A great aid to check load when aiming at vermin whithout too much movement.

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    I've owned 2 HW100's (.177 and .22) and found them to be excellent rifles, compared to the daystate mk3 I would still pick my MK3 but I would trade the multi shot and single shot options on the HW100 for the ones on the MK3 anyday! Same goes for the trigger, also accuracy is well up to standard!

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    Hw100t .177

    Fantastic rifle, i have one in .177 & find it likes accupells & JSB 4.52's. Where else can you buy a rifle, 2 mags & a silencer all in??? I used to shoot an AAs400 which i sold a year ago, &, although a good rifle, i would have to pay extra for a Lefty stock, spare mag & silencer which bumped the price up. The cocking action & the accuracy on the 100 is truly Awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EastbourneBloke
    Really useful review, I am now torn between s410 and HW 100.
    Sorry, I can't help you too much with your decision, other than to say the HW100 is a very good rifle and you would not be disappointed with it. However, I have never even held an S410, but they do seem to have many followers - so opinion is likely to be divided in an open debate.

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    Fantastic rifle

    I have an FAC beastie thumbhole stock in .22, and it is the best air rifle that I have ever used.

    JSB Exacts have been the best for me.

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    HW100 AA s400

    I was offered a PX on my S400 of £300 + silencer minus scope for a HW100 plus 175 cash what do you think as im not sure what to do one question is how many shots do you get from the 100 in 177 at the moment I get about 70-80 shots from the 400 gassed to 190 psi
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    I am always wary of PX deals, as the dealer still has to make their cut when they sell it on. Would you be better off selling the 400 privately? Mind you. £475 for the HW100 is pretty competetive, cheapest I found it was a little over £500.

    I can't advise whether this will be the rifle for YOU, but I know that I love mine.

    Phil

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadeye dick
    I was offered a PX on my S400 of £300 + silencer minus scope for a HW100 plus 175 cash what do you think as im not sure what to do one question is how many shots do you get from the 100 in 177 at the moment I get about 70-80 shots from the 400 gassed to 190 psi
    If its second hand mate, I'd leave it well alone at that price. I bought my HW100T in .177 in mint condition from someone on this BBS for only £400 which is about the correct going rate for one.

    Depending on how "warm" your rifle is, you should get around 100 - 120 shots from a full 200 bar charge in a .177 version.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EastbourneBloke
    Really useful review, I am now torn between s410 and HW 100.
    If you want a rifle for HFT and hunting and weight is not an issue then the HW is where to go.

    Out engineers AA and the mechanics are second to none for the price range.

    Needs an Adj. but pad as standard and/or an adjustable cheek peice.

    The mag system is the best on the market by far followed by the rapid 17 shot and air arms followed by Daystate.

    It also sits below the top of the breech so there is no fouling of any scope - a brilliant feature - the only detraction is the U shape it creates may cause the action to flex. I have not had a prob with this personally but it is easily dealt with by using a one peice and as this can be positioned anywhere, that has got to be goodd news.

    The trigger is excellent even out of the box - difficult to beat and the weight is just about right for HFT and hunting with a good clean crisp break on the 2nd stage.

    Cracking gun

    The V-Mach cylinder is def worth having and I wonder if Hydrographics could do one retaing the end guage as they do for the Steyr.

    The single shot mag is again the best on the market for HFT
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steyr
    If you want a rifle for HFT and hunting and weight is not an issue then the HW is where to go.

    Out engineers AA and the mechanics are second to none for the price range.

    Needs an Adj. but pad as standard and/or an adjustable cheek peice.

    The mag system is the best on the market by far followed by the rapid 17 shot and air arms followed by Daystate.

    It also sits below the top of the breech so there is no fouling of any scope - a brilliant feature - the only detraction is the U shape it creates may cause the action to flex. I have not had a prob with this personally but it is easily dealt with by using a one peice and as this can be positioned anywhere, that has got to be goodd news.

    The trigger is excellent even out of the box - difficult to beat and the weight is just about right for HFT and hunting with a good clean crisp break on the 2nd stage.

    Cracking gun

    The V-Mach cylinder is def worth having and I wonder if Hydrographics could do one retaing the end guage as they do for the Steyr.

    The single shot mag is again the best on the market for HFT

    all very sound advice except for the single shot mag, you want to be able to feal how the pellt goes into the barrel which you cannot do with a magasine really, they are still excellent guns tho
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