To add my comment , I tried a brand new Hydrographics .177 Thumbhole version on the weekend and was extremly impressed........

1) The weight - thought it was fine.......no probs...certainly did not feel heavier than my MK2 rapid!

2)Magazine and loading mech - Absolutely superb and true "german" style - solid feel......much better than Rapid mag and obviously we won't even mention the daystate..

3)Noise - could not believe how quiet this gizmo is....We also had a daystate MK3 and they were the same...My Rapid felt inferior in this department for sure...

4)Accuracy - easy to achieve pellet on pellet at 30yrds

Did not use for hunting as the shop owner was less than keen...

So to summarise I think the HW is the best PCP for the money but the daystate MK3 handles a lot nicer..and the Rapid....well its tried and tested
A2 all rounder....The Rapid comes into its own at FAC levels

One other point the residual value of a Rapid seems to be stronger than any other the others..I guess this has a lot to do with a lack of new models every 12mths!!

For .177 I will certainly consider HW.....But will my Mrs