shows you have never tried one then .
i will stick my neck out here and say ,for the first time in the world of telescopic sights ,
i think i have got more than i paid for
acording to PAT thease are rated up to 308 cal .
and maybe i should have used the term leupold type . as in simular in style and function . etc.it has not got the words leupold on it . so not a rip off copy