My permission letters

[mr_colt]

Excellent letter but; the disclaimer on the permission contract need to be specific about who it indemnifies (landowner or tenant, farm workers employed by them etc.)

Otherwise you are basicly indemnifing your own accident and injury insurance that probably comes with the air-rifle shooters association (I know my BASC insurance covers it.) Which would be a bind if u slipped and broke something major while out doing vermin control; you are stopping yourself claiming against your own insurance which can be a great help if the injury incapacitates you for several months and you can't work.

Also if you were injured as a result of some anti who has tresspassed onto the land to try and disrupt legal pest control then; neither the landowner or yourself would want you to sign away the right to sue the trespassing anti who has commited a criminal offence (aggrivated tresspass) from the moment he stepped onto the land with the intent to stop you shooting.

If a trespassing-anti assualted or otherwise caused me to become injured during my duties when I used to do pest-control; I would certainly want to get compensation for the bodily harm they may have inflicted on me.

Just my thoughts thats all.

mr_colt

P.S: Have you checked the "Airgun shooter assocation" will cover you for public liability while using firearms and shot guns?

[MattW]

These permission letters seem all well and good, but I'm afraid I know what my farmer would say if I presented him with a load of official looking documents to read and sign - it'd be something along the lines of "you've got to be **********ing joking!" followed by "you'd better look elsewhere for somewhere to shoot". If I also started telling my farmer about all the various types of pests and the damage they could cause, he'd be (rightly) insulted and tell me to p*ss off.

We have a very informal arrangement:

We've checked each other out face to face.
He's seen my insurance.
We have each other's phone numbers (including my mobile)
I phone before I go onto his land (so that he knows I'm there and not some trespasser he has to worry about)
I stay out of any fields he's working in.

We certainly haven't signed any agreements, waivers, disclaimers or other made-up legal sounding documents (has anyone actually had a lawyer cast his eye over one of these 'permission' letters - would they have any legal weight?).

It's an entirely different case if you are working in a professional capacity, but for us unpaid hobbyists, I'd think carefully before you alienate a hard won land owner with too much officialdom and 'teaching him to suck eggs'.

Just my humble opinion

Matt

[Jackel]

These permission letters seem all well and good, but I'm afraid I know what my farmer would say if I presented him with a load of official looking documents to read and sign - it'd be something along the lines of "you've got to be ******************ing joking!" followed by "you'd better look elsewhere for somewhere to shoot". If I also started telling my farmer about all the various types of pests and the damage they could cause, he'd be (rightly) insulted and tell me to p*ss off.

We have a very informal arrangement:

We've checked each other out face to face.
He's seen my insurance.
We have each other's phone numbers (including my mobile)
I phone before I go onto his land (so that he knows I'm there and not some trespasser he has to worry about)
I stay out of any fields he's working in.

We certainly haven't signed any agreements, waivers, disclaimers or other made-up legal sounding documents (has anyone actually had a lawyer cast his eye over one of these 'permission' letters - would they have any legal weight?).

It's an entirely different case if you are working in a professional capacity, but for us unpaid hobbyists, I'd think carefully before you alienate a hard won land owner with too much officialdom and 'teaching him to suck eggs'.

Just my humble opinion

Matt

Thanks for your opinion I shall file it in draw B1n

[MattW]

Thanks for your opinion I shall file it in draw B1n

File it whichever drawer you like, it'd be boring if we just had one point of view though wouldn't it?

cheers
Matt

[john-b]

some interesting views flying round all with merit its horses for courses.

I will pm you later matt thanks for the offer. The one at the top of this thread looks like a good one to send to a golf course etc

Are golf courses any good for rabbits and stuff?

Excuse my ignorance but hey if i dont ask i wont find out

[Dan D]

Thanks Jackal

I have been in the process of putting some letters together & none sound quite as good as yours... Infact they're rubbish.

Time to get copy & pasting.

Thanks mate.

Dan

[Renegade Master]

Jackel

Cheers for the permision slip, got it signed Sunday so now ready to do some recon before I begin hunting.

Cheers mate

Dan