Paul i think some peoples eyes are more suited to one make of scope than others my shooting buds got a nikon monarch & everyone rates them highly (& it is a nice scope )but it doesn't seem as bright & crisp to me as a bushnell scope & nor did the lightstream ,falcon totally agree i think it is to do with what suits you opticly,a bit like going to the optitians,everyones eye sight is totally different,i just prefer the optics on the elite