lightstream vs bushnell

[TARGETZERO]

did i mention i dont like the turrets,defo dont like them after zeroing today.give them loads ov clicks miss a click clickclick miss some clicks,loads ov clicks,poa hardly moved,on any other turret zeroed in 5 10 shots,any one else whos got one noticed this,or have i bought a lightstream copy made in turkey

[Pod]

did i mention i dont like the turrets,defo dont like them after zeroing today.give them loads ov clicks miss a click clickclick miss some clicks,loads ov clicks,poa hardly moved,on any other turret zeroed in 5 10 shots,any one else whos got one noticed this,or have i bought a lightstream copy made in turkey

I had this - it turned out that the scope was not held tightly enough in the mounts. I am used to just pinching up mounts but was shown (and whinced whilst being shown) that the mounts needed to be tighter. I think it may be a product of a 25mm tube in 1" mounts combined with the smooth finish on the tube. Anyways after the mounts were tightened I have had no problems at all (for info: BKL single strap highs). The other symptom was not holding zero

[TARGETZERO]

to be honest i never give that a thought,im the same just pinch them up tight,as for mounts im useing bkls double straps, have to check that,if the light stream was a person,i think it would ov had a breakdown by now,all the flak its getting

[Pod]

to be honest i never give that a thought,im the same just pinch them up tight,as for mounts im useing bkls double straps, have to check that,if the light stream was a person,i think it would ov had a breakdown by now,all the flak its getting

I nearly had one too - brand new Air Wolf, new mounts new scope. One of my worst ever HFT scores! Couldn't zero - chasing POI for weeks. Suspected everything - like you do - and nearly sent scope back for a check over. I decided to get the rifle checked first. Met up with David Snook who gave the rifle a quick once over. He put an allen key and the mounts and checked the tightness... tutted... did 'em all up tight. Went to his range. 5 shots and it was zeroed. It put 5 shots through the same hole at 40 yards (off a bench). I was gobsmacked, well pleased and slightly embarrassed. Since then I have shot 5 Bisley HFT league shoots with it and won 4 of them (scores 56, 59, 58, 60 and 60 - all ex. 60) Nowt wrong with that

[TARGETZERO]

lol some time the tiniest details are overlooked,toop scores by the way,love the airwolf cant beat it,sold one recently 22,trying to make me mind up for another 177 brilliant gun

[g.l.w]

toop scores by the way,,T rying to make me mind up for another 177 brilliant gun

Perry you can NEVER EVER make your mind up!!!!!!! your new nick-name is Pawnbroker!!!!

[BOB APPLEYARD]

I now have one of the lightsteam 4.5-14x44 FFP Ret.
I must admit that it came with a rifle, and otherwise would not have bought one at the price.
I did however import a Bushnell 4200 for HFT use and thought its light gathering properties dissapointing given the hype. However the real downer was that the mil dots were true at 12 mag as I remember, which I personally found unuseable for HFT. due to the depth of field reduction.
Using the scope at 10x mag resulted in less finite aim points and bracketing difficulties.
Having sold it I cannot now compare the optics side by side with the lightstream.
I would agree with others about the turrets being very rough, although the adjustments seem to correct the POI at near enough to 1/8 MOA.
The selling point for me, has to be that FFP mil dot reticle which equates to 10x mag.
I have the scope on my HW100 bunny gun and can rely on the aim points remaining true as I need to increase the magnification for longer shots.
I would say that the FFP ret would have a purpose to the HFT shooter, being that the subtensions remain the same at your chosen mag. The advantage being that the mag can be reduced slightly,(I find 8x a good choice), helping out with short range clarity.
Exactly contrary to the Bushnell in this respect.
I do like the locking eyebell, no chance of this one shifting.
I have yet to suffer from the scope fogging up, but then again I have yet to use it in really cold wet conditions.
Overall I think its a good hunting scope, but as others have said, rather overpriced, and feel happier, knowing that I didn't buy mine new.
As for HFT I'm sticking with my Leupold Mk4 MRT with IR TMR ret.
(1/2 mil subtensions at 9x mag).
I would be interested to hear any comments on the optics of the Falcon Tactical 10x42 with MP20 ret.