lightstream vs bushnell

[ross H]

i have had a brief look through a bushnell 4200 and own a 4-12 3200, the lightstream i have had a play with is definatly nicer to look through, i have also been playing with a ziess lately and that iis clearer than te lightstream

[TARGETZERO]

Paul i think some peoples eyes are more suited to one make of scope than others my shooting buds got a nikon monarch & everyone rates them highly (& it is a nice scope )but it doesn't seem as bright & crisp to me as a bushnell scope & nor did the lightstream ,falcon totally agree i think it is to do with what suits you opticly,a bit like going to the optitians,everyones eye sight is totally different,i just prefer the optics on the elite

[blue]

The lightstream looks suspiciously like the old Weaver Tactical that was around a few years ago. Are there plans for a 3-9 x 40 in the pipeline
From what I remember these were very, very good scopes, but flippin' heavy.

I've just remembered I know someone with a Tactical.

[g.l.w]

Hi Guy,s I shot with Targetzero today, not a short amount of time either Approx 6 hour,s after several changes of rifle [swapping over] i have to say the Bushnell for me, the turret,s as Perry say,s are "his word,s" mechanical, it,s as if no lub whatsoever in them??Or the gearing seems rough cut?? Opticaly no better IMHO than the 10x40 bushnell, focal plane did seem to be bob on!! they are a good scope BUT worth the extra £,s, i,l reserve judgment......g.l.w

[nurek]

The lightstream looks suspiciously like the old Weaver Tactical that was around a few years ago. Are there plans for a 3-9 x 40 in the pipeline
From what I remember these were very, very good scopes, but flippin' heavy.

I've just remembered I know someone with a Tactical.

I have compared both scopes side by side at Wendover (I have a Weaver Tactical 4.5-14x44 and another club member has a Lightstream). These scopes look identical externally (tube, turrets, etc.) looking through them, the reticules are different, otherwise it looks the same scope (the coatings on lenses might be slightly different as well, but I didn’t have enough time to do a proper comparison), also with the Weaver you get screw in caps and sunshade. I like both...

[TARGETZERO]

did i mention i dont like the turrets,defo dont like them after zeroing today.give them loads ov clicks miss a click clickclick miss some clicks,loads ov clicks,poa hardly moved,on any other turret zeroed in 5 10 shots,any one else whos got one noticed this,or have i bought a lightstream copy made in turkey

[Pod]

did i mention i dont like the turrets,defo dont like them after zeroing today.give them loads ov clicks miss a click clickclick miss some clicks,loads ov clicks,poa hardly moved,on any other turret zeroed in 5 10 shots,any one else whos got one noticed this,or have i bought a lightstream copy made in turkey

I had this - it turned out that the scope was not held tightly enough in the mounts. I am used to just pinching up mounts but was shown (and whinced whilst being shown) that the mounts needed to be tighter. I think it may be a product of a 25mm tube in 1" mounts combined with the smooth finish on the tube. Anyways after the mounts were tightened I have had no problems at all (for info: BKL single strap highs). The other symptom was not holding zero

[TARGETZERO]

to be honest i never give that a thought,im the same just pinch them up tight,as for mounts im useing bkls double straps, have to check that,if the light stream was a person,i think it would ov had a breakdown by now,all the flak its getting

[BOB APPLEYARD]

I now have one of the lightsteam 4.5-14x44 FFP Ret.
I must admit that it came with a rifle, and otherwise would not have bought one at the price.
I did however import a Bushnell 4200 for HFT use and thought its light gathering properties dissapointing given the hype. However the real downer was that the mil dots were true at 12 mag as I remember, which I personally found unuseable for HFT. due to the depth of field reduction.
Using the scope at 10x mag resulted in less finite aim points and bracketing difficulties.
Having sold it I cannot now compare the optics side by side with the lightstream.
I would agree with others about the turrets being very rough, although the adjustments seem to correct the POI at near enough to 1/8 MOA.
The selling point for me, has to be that FFP mil dot reticle which equates to 10x mag.
I have the scope on my HW100 bunny gun and can rely on the aim points remaining true as I need to increase the magnification for longer shots.
I would say that the FFP ret would have a purpose to the HFT shooter, being that the subtensions remain the same at your chosen mag. The advantage being that the mag can be reduced slightly,(I find 8x a good choice), helping out with short range clarity.
Exactly contrary to the Bushnell in this respect.
I do like the locking eyebell, no chance of this one shifting.
I have yet to suffer from the scope fogging up, but then again I have yet to use it in really cold wet conditions.
Overall I think its a good hunting scope, but as others have said, rather overpriced, and feel happier, knowing that I didn't buy mine new.
As for HFT I'm sticking with my Leupold Mk4 MRT with IR TMR ret.
(1/2 mil subtensions at 9x mag).
I would be interested to hear any comments on the optics of the Falcon Tactical 10x42 with MP20 ret.

[deeps]

Any useful feedback on what these scopes are like under low/fading light conditions. Is the fact that it doesn't have IR that significant ?

[TARGETZERO]

havent had a chance to get out and use it in those conditions yet,if you use the mag on 4.5 forget it,the ret near enough disapears on this setting,so for low light i recon it would be useless,might be wrong here coz i havent tryed it out yet,but i very much doubt it. perry

[Saton]

I shoot very early mornings and have had no problem with my lightstream.

[TARGETZERO]

supose it depends on what he means about low light conditions,plus im getting old now so it might be my eyes or some thing to do with the made in tiawan sticker i discoverd when i looked down the rear ov the lense

[ross H]

i have just purchased a lightstream, unfortunatly i cant tell you how good or bad it is as unfortunatly my ret was in upside down, yer you heard right upside down they must have good quality control i am getting it replaced as i do like the scope but was miffed to find this incedent