Bsf - Bavarian Air-rifles

[I. J.]

I have 5

Ian - I'll give you £20 for the model 65 . ( There is no refreence to this in the factory catalogues and brochures I have so it must be a model pre 1970 IMHO)

Thanks for the offer Roger - but no thanks.
Pre- 1970's eh? Thank you. Any more info anyone on this model or any BSF related item?

ATB
Ian

[BTDT]

Thanks for the offer Roger - but no thanks.
Pre- 1970's eh? Thank you. Any more info anyone on this model or any BSF related item?

ATB
Ian

Ian, I used to have some 1970s American "Gun Digest" annuals (the wife loaned them to a former work colleague and I never saw them again ) and I'm pretty sure Wischo air rifles were in there.

Might be worth keeping your eyes open for a copy. It's quite possible that the 65 only went in any quantity to the USA.

[I. J.]

Ian, I used to have some 1970s American "Gun Digest" annuals (the wife loaned them to a former work colleague and I never saw them again ) and I'm pretty sure Wischo air rifles were in there.

Might be worth keeping your eyes open for a copy. It's quite possible that the 65 only went in any quantity to the USA.

Ive been down that road Jim via the net and a couple of airgun collectors in the States who, while obviously hearing of and owning several of the Wischo rifles, of various models, had not heard of a model 65!
Weihrauch also manufactured version of the BSF models for Marksman including models 28,40,55, 56,58 59, 70, 71, 72 and 75 but NOT a 65.
Very odd.

ATB
Ian

[Paddy_SP]

I'll make my position clear. Sadly, I do not own any BSF's (yet)...

[Shed tuner]

I may actually get round to shooting mine someday - very well made gun, this post ahas me thinking that maybe I should keep it afterall ?

[chuckjordan]

Bought my first AG back in high school, a Wischo 55D. Back then I shot it maybe 2x daily as I had much time on my hands. I wore the bluing off the barrel and had it reblued. Excellent guns (esp. for the price) except for the trigger.

I've disassembled it a few times to tune it as it has had 3 springs (the latest is a Maccari). A tricky bear to disassemble/reassemble, but not hard one you know how (the rear site is the trick).

And yes, this Wischo is in the US.....

pics: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/letmeo...?.dir=/3bbare2

Chuck

[BSFNUT]

http://www.airgunforum.net/agf/index.php?showtopic=1527

This shows the pictures of my BSF's with a catalogue from the late 1970's.

Ian - I also have a 1958 parker hale catalogue with some BSF's in (54 and 60)

I suspect the 65 was either confined to the home market in Germany rather than the US, or a model that was quickly discontinued. Yours has an adjustable trigger screw in the end cap I seem to remember so may be this was a prototype ?

[I. J.]

http://www.airgunforum.net/agf/index.php?showtopic=1527

Yours has an adjustable trigger screw in the end cap I seem to remember so may be this was a prototype ?

Thats what I thought Roger but it has the serial number C958.

ATB
Ian

[BTDT]

http://www.airgunforum.net/agf/index.php?showtopic=1527

Excellent work. Thanks for that.

The B55 is the most archetypal-looking break-barrel in existence. It's the break-barrel's break-barrel - if you could only put one break-barrel springer in an illustrated encyclopedia, it or the S70 would be the one to place.

Never thought about that but, on reflection, I think you're right.

Your comments on the recoil of the 55 ring a bell - I remember that mine was quite 'lively', which is probably why I sold it but kept the sweeter-shooting if lower power HW50. I wonder how the 55 might respond to a synthetic piston head and less spring because, if you could achieve reasonable power (say, close to 11fpe) and tame the discharge movement, it would be a lovely little rifle to shoot.

[edbear2]

http://www.airgunforum.net/agf/index.php?showtopic=1527

This shows the pictures of my BSF's with a catalogue from the late 1970's.

Ian - I also have a 1958 parker hale catalogue with some BSF's in (54 and 60)

I suspect the 65 was either confined to the home market in Germany rather than the US, or a model that was quickly discontinued. Yours has an adjustable trigger screw in the end cap I seem to remember so may be this was a prototype ?

This is from the 1958 PH book;

https://www.flickr.com/photos/312284...7608030264100/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/312284...7608030264100/

Have not got it to hand, but they were pricey compared to the Airsporters and Webley Mk3 in the same book


ATB, Ed

[RossB]

I have an early production (s/n 1547) .177 S70 with the Wischo branding.
It was purchased new in 1973 from Air Rifle Headquarters complete with the Air Rifle Monthly 48 page Special Handbook.
It likes 8.5 Japanese Jet pellets at 775 fps (newer spring & top hat)
One nice feature is the hardwood dowel through the grip area preventing the cracking that occurs on some Dianas and Feinwerkbaus.
Trigger adjustment is a tradeoff between travel and/or weight.
The trigger definitely benefits from the use of a trigger shoe.
The diecast pot metal sights and scope rail are a bit of a turnoff, but my Sept 1980 FWB124D III came with aluminum front and plastic rear sights.

[I. J.]

I've disassembled it a few times to tune it as it has had 3 springs (the latest is a Maccari). A tricky bear to disassemble/reassemble, but not hard one you know how (the rear site is the trick).
Chuck

I think you mean the scope rail. The rear sight has nothing to do with the dismantling and could get someone mightly confused.

ATB
Ian

[Hsing-ee]

I have not stripped & re-lubed mine yet and it's running a bit low on power (10 ft/lbs). I tested it for accuracy and it seemed quiet pellet-sensitive, with a marked preference for H&N FTTs. The groups tended to string vertically, which suggests to me the rifle is very hold-sensitive. The potential seems to be about 15-20 mm at 30 yards once the stringing is resolved, which is not bad. The recoil is quite heavy and sharp, and the rifle is a lightweight for its power level. Maccari says that he has taken some very long shots with his BSF, so perhaps it is a matter of finding the right technique for the particular gun. The Feinwerkbau Sport can be a tricky rifle to master - too firm a hold will give huge groups, and this is another rifle with alot of pre-load.

I'll give the gun an overhaul, do some more testing shortly & report back.