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    Quote Originally Posted by BTDT View Post
    Excellent work. Thanks for that.




    Never thought about that but, on reflection, I think you're right.

    Your comments on the recoil of the 55 ring a bell - I remember that mine was quite 'lively', which is probably why I sold it but kept the sweeter-shooting if lower power HW50. I wonder how the 55 might respond to a synthetic piston head and less spring because, if you could achieve reasonable power (say, close to 11fpe) and tame the discharge movement, it would be a lovely little rifle to shoot.
    Evening Jim,
    Thats another future project of mine- so I will keep you posted!

    Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnyone View Post
    Evening Jim,
    Thats another future project of mine- so I will keep you posted!

    Dave
    Hi Dave,

    I think a few people will be interested if a synthetic or PTFE head, a less stressed mainspring and a bit of TLC make the BSF 55 sweeter to shoot.

    Nice to know someone is carrying on the good work.

    Jim

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    Yep, I have a '54 in my collection. I agree that this model is a real munter.

    Adrian

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    Quote Originally Posted by BTDT View Post
    Hi Dave,

    I think a few people will be interested if a synthetic or PTFE head, a less stressed mainspring and a bit of TLC make the BSF 55 sweeter to shoot.

    Nice to know someone is carrying on the good work.

    Jim
    The Venom Bavaria has synthetic piston and breech seal installed, I have never shot one to be able to comment on improved characteristics, I would be interested in a PTFE conversion it was .22 only though.

    Jim

    Whatever happened to 'David Jenkins' from WBPS who did conversions on the Anschutz 335 (and Mauradermax) are WBPS still trading ? I have not seen any mention of them for years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BSFNUT View Post
    The Venom Bavaria has synthetic piston and breech seal installed, I have never shot one to be able to comment on improved characteristics, I would be interested in a PTFE conversion it was .22 only though.

    Jim

    Whatever happened to 'David Jenkins' from WBPS who did conversions on the Anschutz 335 (and Mauradermax) are WBPS still trading ? I have not seen any mention of them for years.
    WBPS ceased trading around 1988/9 I believe. I expect David Jenkins confined his work to pistols afterwards. I have nave not seen any of the WBPS lads since.

    The Venom Bavaria sounds interesting, and it would be helpful if any BBS members who own one could tell us anything about its shooting characteristics.

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    Jim;

    Aside from BSFs your mention of Original 45s earlier in the thread reminded me of the article you wrote about tuning and refurbing your own. Do you still have that rifle?

    Adrian

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    Quote Originally Posted by draftsmann View Post
    Jim;

    Aside from BSFs your mention of Original 45s earlier in the thread reminded me of the article you wrote about tuning and refurbing your own. Do you still have that rifle?

    Adrian
    Hi Adrian,

    Sadly, no. A friend took a real shine to it and, because I had too many air rifles and the 45 was too much of a looker to risk subjecting it to the rough and tumble hunting I was doing at the time, I sold it to him. It is his pride and joy to this day.

    I kept just one .177" (HW77) and one .22" (HW50) and have them both still.

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    [QUOTE=BTDT;1473783]Hi Adrian,

    Sadly, no. A friend took a real shine to it and, because I had too many air rifles and the 45 was too much of a looker to risk subjecting it to the rough and tumble hunting I was doing at the time, I sold it to him. It is his pride and joy to this day.



    Jim

    Does he still use H&N Silhouette 9.6 grainers through it though

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    Quote Originally Posted by BTDT View Post
    WBPS ceased trading around 1988/9 I believe. I expect David Jenkins confined his work to pistols afterwards. I have nave not seen any of the WBPS lads since.

    The Venom Bavaria sounds interesting, and it would be helpful if any BBS members who own one could tell us anything about its shooting characteristics.
    I wouldnt hold your breath waiting for some feedback on the Venom Bavaria Jim. I'm sure it was kevin.ronnie that told me that sales of it by Venom barely got into double figures (I think he said between 11-25). Obviously they MUST be out there somewhere- unless they've all gone across the pond?

    I have two fwbs, and an anschutz in bits and an RWS 45 to fall back onto to re-spring and guide. After this I am determined that sometime in 2007- the '55will get the ptfe treatment. Hsing-ee will probably get there before me though! Good luck with it Hsing-ee- and let us know how you get on.

    Cheers,
    Dave

    PS I hope I get proved wrong and someone WILL post that they own and shoot a Venom Bavaria and even post some photos here!

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    It would be a start if someone could tell us how the BSF piston washer is fitted! I can't remember for the life of me, but then I have probably not had a BSF apart since the late 1970s.

    If the seal is held by a screw then it should be easy to get a PTFE head turned and attach it in the same way. If the seal is held by a rivet like the Original 45, I'd turn the rivet section off and drill/tap a central hole (actually, I'd have to get someone to do it for me because I don't have access to a lathe nowadays ).

    I'm not at all convinced by the notion of turning the head of the piston down to enable a clip-on seal to be fitted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BTDT View Post
    It would be a start if someone could tell us how the BSF piston washer is fitted! I can't remember for the life of me, but then I have probably not had a BSF apart since the late 1970s.

    If the seal is held by a screw then it should be easy to get a PTFE head turned and attach it in the same way. If the seal is held by a rivet like the Original 45, I'd turn the rivet section off and drill/tap a central hole (actually, I'd have to get someone to do it for me because I don't have access to a lathe nowadays ).

    I'm not at all convinced by the notion of turning the head of the piston down to enable a clip-on seal to be fitted.
    On my BSF S70 the leather piston seal is retained with a screw.
    The seal itself is a four piece setup.
    A hard red fibre disc behind the seal, the leather cup, with a leather centre washer topped with a red fibre centre washer.
    The slotted flathead retaining screw appears to be M4 x O.70 x 15 mm.
    No, I did not just take the gun apart - I have 2 spare seal sets and screws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BTDT View Post
    WBPS ceased trading around 1988/9 I believe. I expect David Jenkins confined his work to pistols afterwards. I have nave not seen any of the WBPS lads since.

    The Venom Bavaria sounds interesting, and it would be helpful if any BBS members who own one could tell us anything about its shooting characteristics.
    David jenkins is still around,
    He shoots at stourport rifle and pistol club ,i see him a couple.of times a.month down there
    Rgds scirroco

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