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    I have 5 , Eddie Barber's S54 Bayern that was featured in a few AGW articles, A BSFS54 Bayern 'carbine' which has a shorter barrel than normal but may only be 'home customised' , 2 .22 S54 Standards one of which has only been fired to test. Finally I have a B55DL.

    I wrote a potted history for this BBS and it was posted on AGF.

    I agree with JT that the dealer network was never as good as HW or FWB and indeed changed several times from Parker Hale in the early 1950's and they never recovered from the demise of Norman May in the 1980's.

    I suppose they were expensive when compared to the contemporary BSA Mercury in the late 1970's and did not have the looks of the FWB.

    Ironically the earlier models had better quality wood.

    I dreamed of owning a BSF S54 Match that MAG had in their shop for at least 5 years - by the time I had saved up £165 it had gone - one of the worst days of my life .This was when a new HW80 was £80 !

    Looking forward to closet outings of other owners !!!!!!

    Ian - I'll give you £20 for the model 65 . ( There is no reference to this in the factory catalogues and brochures I have so it must be a model pre 1970 IMHO)
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    Quote Originally Posted by BSFNUT View Post
    I have 5

    Ian - I'll give you £20 for the model 65 . ( There is no refreence to this in the factory catalogues and brochures I have so it must be a model pre 1970 IMHO)
    Thanks for the offer Roger - but no thanks.
    Pre- 1970's eh? Thank you. Any more info anyone on this model or any BSF related item?

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    Quote Originally Posted by I. J. View Post
    Thanks for the offer Roger - but no thanks.
    Pre- 1970's eh? Thank you. Any more info anyone on this model or any BSF related item?

    ATB
    Ian
    Ian, I used to have some 1970s American "Gun Digest" annuals (the wife loaned them to a former work colleague and I never saw them again ) and I'm pretty sure Wischo air rifles were in there.

    Might be worth keeping your eyes open for a copy. It's quite possible that the 65 only went in any quantity to the USA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BTDT View Post
    Ian, I used to have some 1970s American "Gun Digest" annuals (the wife loaned them to a former work colleague and I never saw them again ) and I'm pretty sure Wischo air rifles were in there.

    Might be worth keeping your eyes open for a copy. It's quite possible that the 65 only went in any quantity to the USA.
    Ive been down that road Jim via the net and a couple of airgun collectors in the States who, while obviously hearing of and owning several of the Wischo rifles, of various models, had not heard of a model 65!
    Weihrauch also manufactured version of the BSF models for Marksman including models 28,40,55, 56,58 59, 70, 71, 72 and 75 but NOT a 65.
    Very odd.

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    I'll make my position clear. Sadly, I do not own any BSF's (yet)...
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    I may actually get round to shooting mine someday - very well made gun, this post ahas me thinking that maybe I should keep it afterall ?
    Always looking for any cheap, interesting, knackered "project" guns. Thanks, JB.

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    Still have my Wischo 55D

    Bought my first AG back in high school, a Wischo 55D. Back then I shot it maybe 2x daily as I had much time on my hands. I wore the bluing off the barrel and had it reblued. Excellent guns (esp. for the price) except for the trigger.

    I've disassembled it a few times to tune it as it has had 3 springs (the latest is a Maccari). A tricky bear to disassemble/reassemble, but not hard one you know how (the rear site is the trick).

    And yes, this Wischo is in the US.....

    pics: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/letmeo...?.dir=/3bbare2

    Chuck
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    http://www.airgunforum.net/agf/index.php?showtopic=1527

    This shows the pictures of my BSF's with a catalogue from the late 1970's.

    Ian - I also have a 1958 parker hale catalogue with some BSF's in (54 and 60)

    I suspect the 65 was either confined to the home market in Germany rather than the US, or a model that was quickly discontinued. Yours has an adjustable trigger screw in the end cap I seem to remember so may be this was a prototype ?

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    Wischo/BSF S70

    I have an early production (s/n 1547) .177 S70 with the Wischo branding.
    It was purchased new in 1973 from Air Rifle Headquarters complete with the Air Rifle Monthly 48 page Special Handbook.
    It likes 8.5 Japanese Jet pellets at 775 fps (newer spring & top hat)
    One nice feature is the hardwood dowel through the grip area preventing the cracking that occurs on some Dianas and Feinwerkbaus.
    Trigger adjustment is a tradeoff between travel and/or weight.
    The trigger definitely benefits from the use of a trigger shoe.
    The diecast pot metal sights and scope rail are a bit of a turnoff, but my Sept 1980 FWB124D III came with aluminum front and plastic rear sights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckjordan View Post

    I've disassembled it a few times to tune it as it has had 3 springs (the latest is a Maccari). A tricky bear to disassemble/reassemble, but not hard one you know how (the rear site is the trick).
    Chuck
    I think you mean the scope rail. The rear sight has nothing to do with the dismantling and could get someone mightly confused.

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    Bsf Accuracy

    I have not stripped & re-lubed mine yet and it's running a bit low on power (10 ft/lbs). I tested it for accuracy and it seemed quiet pellet-sensitive, with a marked preference for H&N FTTs. The groups tended to string vertically, which suggests to me the rifle is very hold-sensitive. The potential seems to be about 15-20 mm at 30 yards once the stringing is resolved, which is not bad. The recoil is quite heavy and sharp, and the rifle is a lightweight for its power level. Maccari says that he has taken some very long shots with his BSF, so perhaps it is a matter of finding the right technique for the particular gun. The Feinwerkbau Sport can be a tricky rifle to master - too firm a hold will give huge groups, and this is another rifle with alot of pre-load.

    I'll give the gun an overhaul, do some more testing shortly & report back.

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