Bsf - Bavarian Air-rifles

[BSFNUT]

Hi Dave,

I think a few people will be interested if a synthetic or PTFE head, a less stressed mainspring and a bit of TLC make the BSF 55 sweeter to shoot.

Nice to know someone is carrying on the good work.

Jim

The Venom Bavaria has synthetic piston and breech seal installed, I have never shot one to be able to comment on improved characteristics, I would be interested in a PTFE conversion it was .22 only though.

Jim

Whatever happened to 'David Jenkins' from WBPS who did conversions on the Anschutz 335 (and Mauradermax) are WBPS still trading ? I have not seen any mention of them for years.

[BTDT]

The Venom Bavaria has synthetic piston and breech seal installed, I have never shot one to be able to comment on improved characteristics, I would be interested in a PTFE conversion it was .22 only though.

Jim

Whatever happened to 'David Jenkins' from WBPS who did conversions on the Anschutz 335 (and Mauradermax) are WBPS still trading ? I have not seen any mention of them for years.

WBPS ceased trading around 1988/9 I believe. I expect David Jenkins confined his work to pistols afterwards. I have nave not seen any of the WBPS lads since.

The Venom Bavaria sounds interesting, and it would be helpful if any BBS members who own one could tell us anything about its shooting characteristics.

[draftsmann]

Jim;

Aside from BSFs your mention of Original 45s earlier in the thread reminded me of the article you wrote about tuning and refurbing your own. Do you still have that rifle?

Adrian

[BTDT]

Jim;

Aside from BSFs your mention of Original 45s earlier in the thread reminded me of the article you wrote about tuning and refurbing your own. Do you still have that rifle?

Adrian

Hi Adrian,

Sadly, no. A friend took a real shine to it and, because I had too many air rifles and the 45 was too much of a looker to risk subjecting it to the rough and tumble hunting I was doing at the time, I sold it to him. It is his pride and joy to this day.

I kept just one .177" (HW77) and one .22" (HW50) and have them both still.

[BSFNUT]

[QUOTE=BTDT;1473783]Hi Adrian,

Sadly, no. A friend took a real shine to it and, because I had too many air rifles and the 45 was too much of a looker to risk subjecting it to the rough and tumble hunting I was doing at the time, I sold it to him. It is his pride and joy to this day.



Jim

Does he still use H&N Silhouette 9.6 grainers through it though

[BTDT]

[QUOTE=BSFNUT;1473801]

Hi Adrian,

Sadly, no. A friend took a real shine to it and, because I had too many air rifles and the 45 was too much of a looker to risk subjecting it to the rough and tumble hunting I was doing at the time, I sold it to him. It is his pride and joy to this day.



Jim

Does he still use H&N Silhouette 9.6 grainers through it though

Ah, the 45 and Silhouettes - what a combination. The Silhouette converted me from being a dyed-in-the-wool .22" user to .177", and all due to Dave Welham recommending I try Silhouette.

I shot that 45 even after it seemed everybody else had switched to the HW77 and believe that, accuracy wise, it was a match. If anything, the 45 seemed to give very good accuracy with a wider ranger of pellets than the 77.

I'm not sure what pellets my friend is using through it now. Whatever pellet he is using must suit the 45 or I'd have heard about it.

[DM80]

[QUOTE=BTDT;1473828]

Ah, the 45 and Silhouettes - what a combination. The Silhouette converted me from being a dyed-in-the-wool .22" user to .177", and all due to Dave Welham recommending I try Silhouette.

I shot that 45 even after it seemed everybody else had switched to the HW77 and believe that, accuracy wise, it was a match. If anything, the 45 seemed to give very good accuracy with a wider ranger of pellets than the 77.

I'm not sure what pellets my friend is using through it now. Whatever pellet he is using must suit the 45 or I'd have heard about it.

Jim,

i still use my old RWS 45 more than any other airgun in my collection its a great airgun it has so much charactor' i've had so many good hunting trips with this airgun its untrue' getting back to the BSF thing i've owned them in the past but never really got on with them' for sure they are a fine airgun in all departments but i always shy'ed away from them and went for the glam models of the day' originals/fwb/hw's/bsa etc' i always thought the BSF 55's looked a bit like relum telly break barrels the BSF mod 70 looks nice though and i would buy one if it came available.

dave.

[jonnyone]

WBPS ceased trading around 1988/9 I believe. I expect David Jenkins confined his work to pistols afterwards. I have nave not seen any of the WBPS lads since.

The Venom Bavaria sounds interesting, and it would be helpful if any BBS members who own one could tell us anything about its shooting characteristics.

I wouldnt hold your breath waiting for some feedback on the Venom Bavaria Jim. I'm sure it was kevin.ronnie that told me that sales of it by Venom barely got into double figures (I think he said between 11-25). Obviously they MUST be out there somewhere- unless they've all gone across the pond?

I have two fwbs, and an anschutz in bits and an RWS 45 to fall back onto to re-spring and guide. After this I am determined that sometime in 2007- the '55will get the ptfe treatment. Hsing-ee will probably get there before me though! Good luck with it Hsing-ee- and let us know how you get on.

Cheers,
Dave

PS I hope I get proved wrong and someone WILL post that they own and shoot a Venom Bavaria and even post some photos here!

[BTDT]

It would be a start if someone could tell us how the BSF piston washer is fitted! I can't remember for the life of me, but then I have probably not had a BSF apart since the late 1970s.

If the seal is held by a screw then it should be easy to get a PTFE head turned and attach it in the same way. If the seal is held by a rivet like the Original 45, I'd turn the rivet section off and drill/tap a central hole (actually, I'd have to get someone to do it for me because I don't have access to a lathe nowadays ).

I'm not at all convinced by the notion of turning the head of the piston down to enable a clip-on seal to be fitted.

[RossB]

It would be a start if someone could tell us how the BSF piston washer is fitted! I can't remember for the life of me, but then I have probably not had a BSF apart since the late 1970s.

If the seal is held by a screw then it should be easy to get a PTFE head turned and attach it in the same way. If the seal is held by a rivet like the Original 45, I'd turn the rivet section off and drill/tap a central hole (actually, I'd have to get someone to do it for me because I don't have access to a lathe nowadays ).

I'm not at all convinced by the notion of turning the head of the piston down to enable a clip-on seal to be fitted.

On my BSF S70 the leather piston seal is retained with a screw.
The seal itself is a four piece setup.
A hard red fibre disc behind the seal, the leather cup, with a leather centre washer topped with a red fibre centre washer.
The slotted flathead retaining screw appears to be M4 x O.70 x 15 mm.
No, I did not just take the gun apart - I have 2 spare seal sets and screws.

[BTDT]

On my BSF S70 the leather piston seal is retained with a screw.
The seal itself is a four piece setup.
A hard red fibre disc behind the seal, the leather cup, with a leather centre washer topped with a red fibre centre washer.
The slotted flathead retaining screw appears to be M4 x O.70 x 15 mm.
No, I did not just take the gun apart - I have 2 spare seal sets and screws.

Thanks very much for the information. That could make life easier for Hsing-ee and jonnyone.

[scirroco]

WBPS ceased trading around 1988/9 I believe. I expect David Jenkins confined his work to pistols afterwards. I have nave not seen any of the WBPS lads since.

The Venom Bavaria sounds interesting, and it would be helpful if any BBS members who own one could tell us anything about its shooting characteristics.

David jenkins is still around,
He shoots at stourport rifle and pistol club ,i see him a couple.of times a.month down there
Rgds scirroco