I agree that for the money the optics are better than you should expect and the close dots very useful but the ret is easily lost in dark places as the dots are physically small. Dashes may have been better. Still a scope worth considering though.
I agree that for the money the optics are better than you should expect and the close dots very useful but the ret is easily lost in dark places as the dots are physically small. Dashes may have been better. Still a scope worth considering though.
I have just bought the 4-12 by 44 essential scope, £80. I have some expensive Bushnell 4200 scopes and some Leupold scopes but for £80 I think the BSA is outstanding value for money.
Nice and clear, and a good depth of field.
You really need to adjust the ocular lens (nearest the eye) to get the reticule right for personal preferece as the mil dots are a little small. They may be difficult to see in a dark conditions.
If you are comfortable to shoot on 8 mag then this is a cracking budget HFT scope.
NeilB
I have the 3-9 X32 AO duplex version on my rapid. It’s a cracking scope for hunting, very good optics for the money. I have used it on HFT courses and just racked up a 71 out of 80 with it. If you have a heavy rifle and you want to lighten the load you won’t go far wrong for £50.
I have the 4-12x44AO, and agree about the quality of the optics.
However I find the mildots too small to be of much use.
With the ocular lens adjusted to suit my vision the dots are barely visible, in anything but good light I cannot see them.
A clear case of look before you buy, as I now have to sell mine.
I use the 6-24-50 on my CZ452 in .17HMR. A very clear optic when compared to other brands. When i was shoping around i found that scopes twice the BSA's value to be very poor.
I was that impressed i even bought "My Old Man" (xverminate2)one for a christmas present from Blackpool A.R, they had a cracking deal on there Fleabay Site at almost half the price of other retailers.
See Pics, We Have fitted Hawk Sun Tubes.
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/i...dDECJAN002.jpg
Many Thanks
Justin.
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HW80 Venom Lazaglide .20 = Rapid 7 MK1 .20 = Original Model 45 .177 = CZ452 American .17HMR = Mossberg 410 = GECO 12 Bore
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HW80 Venom Lazaglide .20 = Rapid 7 MK1 .20 = Original Model 45 .177 = CZ452 American .17HMR = Mossberg 410 = GECO 12 Bore
I agree on the 3-9 X32 AO duplex. Nice li'l hunter.
just fitted the jaguar model 1.5-6x44ir 30mm body very nice optics
Well i have just got the MD 4x12x44 AO. Optics seem nice and clear but thats as good as it gets. Everything else screams "budget". There are nasty sharp edges to the metalwork. When i used the eyepiece to focus on the reticle it showed up little "jaggies" between the mildots.. very poor imo. I took the eyepeice out about 2 turns during the focusing exercise and found it moved laterally noticeably. I touched it while looking through the scope and found considerable reticle movement occuring. This would probably be more of a problem on a springer?
Would i recommend it or buy another? Unfortunately No.
Chap at my club had a similar 'duffer'. It happens with all product lines occasionally. Take it back for a replacement.
ive just bought a 3-9 x 40 essencial scope and im having trouble with the focus at anything less than 45ft the instructions that came with the scope seem to be for different scopes.
Hi,
I have the 3-9x50 Essencial, and at 9x mag, objects at close range like sub 15 yards are not very well focussed. And I dont mean blurry - you need to draw a fine line on a piece of paper to notice it big time. Some objects (say an apple) appear focussed until only 15 ft away.
Have you tried at lower magnification levels for the close range objects ?
I only began to notice this a couple of days ago when going through yet another zeroing excercise. Its all clear at 25 yards and beyond though which is my intended hunting range. In lower light conditions (like 9PM UK summertime) - fine objects can appear blurry even at 20 yards, dont know if thats my eyesight though.
Overall I would recommend the Essencial scope but alas I have not owned any other to compare it with !
BTW - My instructions are generic also - not Essencial specific !
Dan
I had the 3-9x40 - It lasted for about 10 tins on a hw springer, They have clear glass for the money! Also the dots are a bit to close together
Just picked up a cheap combo with the 4x32 on.
It's really good! I expected a shocker, I was even logging on to buy a replacement before I shot the thing.
Mil dots are nice and close. They seem to work well at 5yd intervals for my.22 HW. The optics are lovely and clear and the small scope doesnt upset the lines or the balance of the rifle.
As someone who's been using high mag scopes for years I'm really impressed with these little things. You can't go wrong for the money.