The logan MK11 is over priced and overrated and unrealiable so is the S16 there are far better rifles for that kind of money. example daystate MK111. HW100.FX2000.even theobens are more reliable <img src="http://jsramsbottom.co.uk/bbs/e/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" width="15" height="15"><!--graemlin:-->