I use all my 232 BAR hoses on my 300 BAR bottle maybe they are rated higher
Alright chaps?
Got a new charging kit (300 bar) on its way, but apparently there's no hose with it.
I'm guessing the hose for my current 232 bar kit won't cut the mustard, so does anyone know where I can snag a 300 bar rated one from, and roughly how much it'll cost?
Any help appreciated..
Geordie <img src="http://jsramsbottom.co.uk/bbs/e/icon_cool.gif" alt="Cool" width="15" height="15"><!--graemlin:-->
I use all my 232 BAR hoses on my 300 BAR bottle maybe they are rated higher
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by airgunner2388:
I use all my 232 BAR hoses on my 300 BAR bottle maybe they are rated higher[/quote]
Cheers mate - is there any way of telling what the rating is?
Don't fancy a big bang goin off when I charge me rifle!! <img src="http://jsramsbottom.co.uk/bbs/e/icon_eek.gif" alt="Eek" width="15" height="15"><!--graemlin:-->
Best to be cautious Geordie mate,
The working pressure should be stamped on the side of the hose. Even if you are within the rated pressures it's worth having a good look at the casing for scrapes/bulges/cuts and check all the fittings are in good condition.
If there isn't one then don't use it!!! Get yourself a new hose, it's lots cheaper than med bills and hurts less than removing bits of yourself with high pressure air/shrapnel <img src="http://jsramsbottom.co.uk/bbs/e/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" width="15" height="15"><!--graemlin:-->
For everyone reading this please *DON'T* use hoses/valves etc at higher pressures than they are marked up for, you will get away with it some of the time, maybe always... but when they go it's not nice <img src="http://jsramsbottom.co.uk/bbs/e/icon_frown.gif" alt="Frown" width="15" height="15"><!--graemlin:-->
(300 bar is of course well over FOUR THOUSAND POUNDS PER SQUARE INCH.) Not to be played with!!
I don't have any prices off the top of my head, depends what fittings and length of hose you need but I'll have a scout about the dive shops tomorow if you want.
hth,
Smudge
What rifle do you charge up to 300 bar? the hose only needs to take your rifle pressure,even then they are tested to a higher pressure than the working one,at 300 bar I would worry about your rifle ,should you slip up ,Ron.
New hose will cost between £10-12
Steve <img src="http://jsramsbottom.co.uk/bbs/e/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="Big Grin" width="15" height="15"><!--graemlin:-->
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 5thplaceron:
What rifle do you charge up to 300 bar? the hose only needs to take your rifle pressure,even then they are tested to a higher pressure than the working one,at 300 bar I would worry about your rifle ,should you slip up ,Ron.[/quote]
I was wondering about that mate - rifle fills to 220 bar, but my 232 bar kit struggles.
Stevecoo - any idea where bouts I'd get one from? are they standard dive kit or guns only?
Cheers,
Geordie <img src="http://jsramsbottom.co.uk/bbs/e/icon_cool.gif" alt="Cool" width="15" height="15"><!--graemlin:-->
Here is a link to my site where I have some pics of my charging equipment.
If you contact TAL ARMS (01202 473030)they would advise you about your requirements.
web page
Regards
Barry
Geordie,
Whilst I have little experience of using hoses in a charging system, I have made an adaptor using snap connectors and threaded adaptors (admittedly for a logun S16 bottle) that does not use a hose. To my experience of aircraft hydraulics, any unnecessary volume that you have to charge with pressure is wasted effort; thus my view on this would be to anyone to visit a hydraulic hose maker to get a "special" made and tested to keep the swept volume as small as possible so that you don't waste effort from a manual pump or air from a divers bottle.
Having re-read this post its a bit vague but I think I know what I'm on about. I can understand the supply of flexible lengths by the manufacturers as they allow the obvious flexibility of movement, I just like to keep the effort that I put into the pump to go into the bottle that I'm charging up and not into building pressure in a length of hose that I'm going to have to bleed off before removing the charging equipment.
All the best in your search
"Nadoleg Llawen i pawb"
Ogri the trog
Current Microbore pipes via Midland Diving are tested well over 400 Bar.
Which are now the thin Plastic ones.
Metal braided was breaking on joins.
My price £10.00 , I have all the other standard
Midland connectores etc.
BOB/R
Hi Geordie, Uttings do them for £10.95 you've got to add P&P though which is about a fiver <img src="http://jsramsbottom.co.uk/bbs/e/icon_eek.gif" alt="Eek" width="15" height="15"><!--graemlin:-->
Should get mine through the post tomorrow cos I've just got myself a 300bar bottle as well <img src="http://jsramsbottom.co.uk/bbs/e/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="Big Grin" width="15" height="15"><!--graemlin:-->
Its got to be better than that 207 bar one I had <img src="http://jsramsbottom.co.uk/bbs/e/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" width="15" height="15"><!--graemlin:-->
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Its got to be better than that 207 bar one I had <img src="http://jsramsbottom.co.uk/bbs/e/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" width="15" height="15"><!--graemlin:-->[/quote]
LOL - couldn't have been any worse eh mate? <img src="http://jsramsbottom.co.uk/bbs/e/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="Big Grin" width="15" height="15"><!--graemlin:--><img src="http://jsramsbottom.co.uk/bbs/e/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="Big Grin" width="15" height="15"><!--graemlin:--><img src="http://jsramsbottom.co.uk/bbs/e/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="Big Grin" width="15" height="15"><!--graemlin:-->
You didn't buy it off Greengrass's mate "Jimmy Tyne" did you? <img src="http://jsramsbottom.co.uk/bbs/e/icon_eek.gif" alt="Eek" width="15" height="15"><!--graemlin:--> <img src="http://jsramsbottom.co.uk/bbs/e/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" width="15" height="15"><!--graemlin:--><img src="http://jsramsbottom.co.uk/bbs/e/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" width="15" height="15"><!--graemlin:-->
Geordie <img src="http://jsramsbottom.co.uk/bbs/e/icon_cool.gif" alt="Cool" width="15" height="15"><!--graemlin:-->
Cheers for the info guys - If I'm gonna sell my 232 bar kit on I'll be needing to let it go with a hose either way, so looks like I'm buying a new one!
Are these just standard diving kit (i.e. can I buy them from my divestore) or will it be an uttings/bob/MDE job?
Thanks again for the plethora of replies,
Geordie <img src="http://jsramsbottom.co.uk/bbs/e/icon_cool.gif" alt="Cool" width="15" height="15"><!--graemlin:-->
Splendid <img src="http://jsramsbottom.co.uk/bbs/e/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" width="15" height="15"><!--graemlin:-->
btw Geordie, did you get the pics I sent?
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Stealthy Smudge:
btw Geordie, did you get the pics I sent?[/quote]
LOL - yeah mate, got em but was in a meeting so couldn't get back to ya!
From the front half of the piccy it looks like a Ballan Wrasse (Labrus bergylta) to my rusty eyes - nice photies tho! <img src="http://jsramsbottom.co.uk/bbs/e/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" width="15" height="15"><!--graemlin:-->
I'll try an get our kid to scan some of mine in and i'll mail em over - bubbly <img src="http://jsramsbottom.co.uk/bbs/e/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" width="15" height="15"><!--graemlin:-->
Geordie <img src="http://jsramsbottom.co.uk/bbs/e/icon_cool.gif" alt="Cool" width="15" height="15"><!--graemlin:-->