As already stated numerous times, Nick is trusted and respected on the board. However, trust comes from mutual respect. In a way, your saying trust me, however, i dont really trust you. On balance, even if someone who had been on the BBS for years asked me to send goods before they had sent payment, i would'nt do it. Thats not to say i have'nt sent stuff before funds have cleared, but that was my decision, based not really on number of posts, but on gut feeling from correspondance, or telephone conversations. ( although would'nt do it to someone who had just joined with half a dozen posts). My philosophy is, if someone send me a cheque, then asks me they would apreciate if i could send the goods out ASAP, I would'nt , until funds were cleared. However, if they did'nt ask, and they met the other criteria mentioned, I probably would! mark