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    MTC Viper 6-24 X 56IR

    First post. I just got a nice new MTC Viper 6-24. Again as all the other reviews suggest, this is a very nice piece of kit, very well built and yet not so heavy. The turrets and zoom ring probably need a bit of work loosening but otherwise all good. Optics are nice and bright and very clear upto around 18 mag. The reticle is sweet, good sharp image and looks like it should be worth alot more than the asking price. I imagine this is where the bulk of the cost goes in the manufacturing. So I mounted it to a brand new X2 Sports, which was producing rather eratic results after zeroing. I can produce better 30 yd groups with my prosport using a catseye at the moment. After several second opinions from guys at my club it seems the scope is suffering from some internal zero shift. It can put pellet on pellet for a few shots then it puts one off by an inch or so. I put nearly 300 pellets through trying different senarios, with silencer and 10 shot mag on and off to no avail. So i just proved the zero shift by substituting the scope for another one i had laying around (an AGS 6 X 40 Mini) Problem solved!!! Pellet on pellet etc etc!
    I haven't lost faith in the manufacturer or the scope, so now i'm just waiting to here from MTC, to see if i can send it back to them so they can take a look at it and, hopefully come to the same conclusion as i.

    Will update review when i get a replacement.

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    Last edited by Matthewjs77; 13-08-2007 at 06:43 PM.

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    I have had exactly the same problem with a Bushnell Trophy scope. Makes the scope unusable. I've never heard of it happening before with MTC
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthewjs77 View Post
    this is a very nice piece of kit, very well built and yet not so heavy
    you must have the lightweight model cos mine weigh a tonn

    Good review of great scopes and the customer service that Gary and Sammie provide is first class and a credit to them both
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthewjs77 View Post
    First post. I just got a nice new MTC Viper 6-24. Again as all the other reviews suggest, this is a very nice piece of kit, very well built and yet not so heavy. The turrets and zoom ring probably need a bit of work loosening but otherwise all good. Optics are nice and bright and very clear upto around 18 mag. The reticle is sweet, good sharp image and looks like it should be worth alot more than the asking price. I imagine this is where the bulk of the cost goes in the manufacturing. So I mounted it to a brand new X2 Sports, which was producing rather eratic results after zeroing. I can produce better 30 yd groups with my prosport using a catseye at the moment. After several second opinions from guys at my club it seems the scope is suffering from some internal zero shift. It can put pellet on pellet for a few shots then it puts one of by an inch or so. I put nearly 300 pellets through trying different senarios, with silencer and 10 shot mag on and off to no avail. So i just proved the zero shift by substituting the scope for another one i had laying around (an AGS 6 X 40 Mini) Problem solved!!! Pellet on pellet etc etc!
    I haven't lost faith in the manufacturer or the scope, so now i'm just waiting to here from MTC, to see if i can send it back to them so they can take a look at it and, hopefully come to the same conclusion as i.

    Will update review when i get a replacement.

    X2 Sports Walnut and 6-24 X 56 Viper
    AA Prosport Walnut and 4-16 X 50 BSA Catseye
    AA S200 Beech and 6 X 40 Mini AGS

    Hi there

    Have you contacted either myself or Gary regarding this scope? Only I have no record of a 6-24x56 Viper being returned. Or have you returned it to the shop you purchased it from maybe?

    Sammie

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    Zero shift

    Nice review buddy.

    I thought I had zero shift with my Viper. After explaining the symptoms to Gary, he reckoned the barrel was loose-he was bloomin right as well!

    When the odd pellet flies off do the rest return to the same hole or the new zero? If it's something you could've over looked like my problem was you won't need to be without your scope for long. Either way Gary or Sammie will make sure you're happy with the outcome.

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    Still no contact from the reviewer.

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    I have heard of one Viper owner who was convinced the scope had wandering zero but it was the rifle, which I proved by cleaning the barrel (this was a high powered FAC model)

    No doubt it wont be this on your 12ftlb model, could be a scope problem so get in touch with Gary
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary C View Post
    Hi there

    Have you contacted either myself or Gary regarding this scope? Only I have no record of a 6-24x56 Viper being returned. Or have you returned it to the shop you purchased it from maybe?

    Sammie
    Hi there, just returned from my hols. I have emailed MTC using the link from the MTC website, but i have just checked and i have had no reply. Is there a new email address for you Sammie?

    kind regards

    Matt

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    mtcoptics@dsl.pipex.com

    Or just give us a ring. We are close enough for you to drive down, test here and take a new one away if it's faulty

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary C View Post
    mtcoptics@dsl.pipex.com

    Or just give us a ring. We are close enough for you to drive down, test here and take a new one away if it's faulty
    Now thats the first class service i've heard so much about. I will call later in the week to arrange a day and time.

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    Last edited by Matthewjs77; 14-08-2007 at 09:23 PM.

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    i would get someone else to stick it on theirs to see if they get the same symptom before blaming the scope

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    Quote Originally Posted by Br0dy View Post
    i would get someone else to stick it on theirs to see if they get the same symptom before blaming the scope
    Thanks for the advice but i think this avenue has been explored, only in reverse. The budget AGS Mini 6 X 40 scope on the same gun produced thumbnail groups consistently for nearly a hundred pellets. Placing the Viper back on produced the same eratic results.

    It was a mail order scope so could have possibly taken a bash in transit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlts View Post
    Nice review buddy.

    I thought I had zero shift with my Viper. After explaining the symptoms to Gary, he reckoned the barrel was loose-he was bloomin right as well!

    When the odd pellet flies off do the rest return to the same hole or the new zero? If it's something you could've over looked like my problem was you won't need to be without your scope for long. Either way Gary or Sammie will make sure you're happy with the outcome.

    Ryan
    Thanks Ryan, it's a good point, i have been over the gun this evening hoping i would find something lose or similar but nothing. If i remember right, on occasions the zero shifted completely, giving me decent groups but way off the centre that i had already zeroed on, sometimes returning to it's original zero.

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    We have a variery of rifles and 30 yards indoors. DEfective scopes can and do happen, so I'd not fret too much until you can check.
    We have warranty stock on hand so no problem

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    mtc viper...

    i have one on my air ranger .177 and have found it very good i have been droping woodies up to 40m+ and am over the moon with the very sharp optics.been gowing out as the sun is getting low but keep forgetting to put the sun shade on so dont know how well this will work???im more of a hunter than a target shooter but i think that its ideal for most types of work.
    i dont have much to say that has not been said already......for the price range very good.
    i have 1 or 2

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