Curious : Does anyone use or has used a single stroke pneumatic for target shooting?

[BigAl]

I Stand corrected.
As it happens I used to use a Gamo SSP target gun for practicing the standing back when I was shooting 3p, since I've had "ME" had to give up shooting 3p just cant keep lifting a free rifle 8Kgs is a bit of a lump! never was good enough to be really good either and 10M is a really demanding course of fire!

Alan

[Greylag]

Hello BigAl (Alan)

Very interesting information mate, thanks a lot for that. I'm sure the competition target shooters will have no objections to you sharing your excellent knowledge with them.

By the way did you ever test batches of pellets for hunting style airguns or was it just for the match/competition shooter?

Would the tests if applied to .22 pellets for hunting I wonder reveal a similar sort of finding to those you tested for the competition rifles.

I would assume you were testing .177 pellets? would the increased ft/lbs and extra weight of the .22 pellets make them more likely to be less accurate? I usually test each pellet for zero as I replace my stock of them.

Regards

[Bowman26]

I use it to shoot Airgun target class silhouette. Even out at 45 yards that 10m rifle is damn accurate. At only 600 fps w/7.9g pellets it can get pushed around by the wind easily but that makes it a challenge considering the rifle was designed to shoot 1/4 that distance. Even the chickens are nearly twice as far away as the rifle was made to shoot.

Also use it to shoot mini sniping style matches. If your not familiar with this game it uses 9mm casings placed at 35 yards and is shot off the bench or a rest for the forearm and supported by the body otherwise. The case ID is .355 so a .177 pellet is 1/2 its diameter. Tough shooting even with a rest.

Bowman

[wonky donky]

Hi Geylag,
Glad I've said something of interest..at last!

I've not done a great deal of testing with .22 air but have done some & found in general very good batch's of .22 tend to be rather more common "off the shelf" than .177

I know that altering average velocity just 20/30fps from one test to another has little or no affect on group size if all other things are equal.Over & above that other variables come into play, but it's fair to say from my own experience, at 50m indoors it is possible for a 30ftlb .22 air rifle to consitantly produce 10 shot groups of sub 1" with the correct batch of pellet. Shooting any further than that well lets say do I think sub 1" groups consistantly possible at 100ydsErrrrrrrrrrrrm NO! On occasions perhaps! People do win the lottery!

I have done a fair amount with .177 sporting pcp's & Ft.guns. I once tested a BSA Hornet std rifle indoors at 45yds from a test rig with a batch of Webley Lazerdome, it consistantly shot 10 shots in a group o/d of sub 10mm using a mylar overlay, now I call that impressive! but it was average to rubbish with FTT, Lazerpell, Crossman to name a few, nothing wrong with the other makes just not as good as in this rifle, another Hornet would have produced differing results no doubt! & I might add, I believe this performance to be considered exceptional, not the norm at this range! Don't forget I'm not talking C-C

My FWB P70 converted from 10m to 11.5ftlb, would shoot 10mm dia 10 shot groups at the same range with some batch's of JSB, & Lazerdome,

My steyr LG100 was a "nightmare" it was hopeless even at 6yd with most stuff except RWS Superdome of all things, a pellet that only ever proved to be average in all my other tests, but still very good. Some pellets were that bad I was getting 2 or 3 shots keyhole at 10m, I converted it to shoot FT at 11.5ftlb problem went away, I couldn't be bothered to try & find out why probaly not put together right! never liked the gun anyway!

The test rig used would not, nor was designed, to test break barrel guns, so I don't have any information to share on that.I have no reason to believe a good quality well tuned BB would not shoot as well as a quality PCP.
I did do a little testing using the same method Eley & Anschutz use. ie clamp the barrell, but I've never been convinced by this method, it seems too crude to me, but thats just my opinion!

I did alot of rimfire tests too with Anshutz, Walther, Krico, Diana plus a few sporting rifles & you would not believe how poor some of even the best quality ammo grouped, like 7 out of 10 seperate holes at 50m ouch!!

[Greylag]

Hello Wonky,

Apologies for mixing yourself and Big Al up. I was thinking the person who tested the pellets was Big Al.

Interesting information from all none the less. I'm pleased to see that the .22 pellets don't seem to need as much sorting as the .177, saves me a lot of hassle

I only use the Titan Mohawk for hunting and it is very accurate with 5.51mm AA fields straight off the shelf, as I said I check the zero each time out just to be sure.

Thanks again all for the information, most helpful.
Regards

[wonky donky]

Hello Wonky,

Apologies for mixing yourself and Big Al up. I was thinking the person who tested the pellets was Big Al.

Interesting information from all none the less. I'm pleased to see that the .22 pellets don't seem to need as much sorting as the .177, saves me a lot of hassle

I only use the Titan Mohawk for hunting and it is very accurate with 5.51mm AA fields straight off the shelf, as I said I check the zero each time out just to be sure.

Thanks again all for the information, most helpful.
Regards

Hi Greylag,

I've just aquired a Titan Mohawk with walnut thumbhole stock in .177 today, May be interesting to "put it through it's pace's" to see what it can do! Must say though, hard to cock the thing even if you have "the knack" I don't think I'd want to play with it too long! I don't intend to keep it anway, nice looking gun but too much like hard work for me It would have been a nice addition to my collection if I hadn't got a mint working Titan JB1!

[Greylag]

Hi Greylag,

I've just aquired a Titan Mohawk with walnut thumbhole stock in .177 today, May be interesting to "put it through it's pace's" to see what it can do! Must say though, hard to cock the thing even if you have "the knack" I don't think I'd want to play with it too long! I don't intend to keep it anway, nice looking gun but too much like hard work for me It would have been a nice addition to my collection if I hadn't got a mint working Titan JB1!

Hello Wonky,

Did you have to tell me it had a walnut thumbnhole stock ? mine has an ordinary standard stock. I found if you hold the cocking lever halfway down when you start to close it it's easier, then slide your hand down to the rubber grip as you get to the last few inches where the extra pressure is need to close it. Keep your shirt out of the way if it's loose fitting or the locking pip will leave nice tears in it

By the was if you happen to have the user manual for the Mohawk I'd be grateful if you'd please scan it and e.mail me it, I can't get hold of the damn thing anywhere.

Regards

[wonky donky]

Hello Wonky,

Did you have to tell me it had a walnut thumbnhole stock ? mine has an ordinary standard stock. I found if you hold the cocking lever halfway down when you start to close it it's easier, then slide your hand down to the rubber grip as you get to the last few inches where the extra pressure is need to close it. Keep your shirt out of the way if it's loose fitting or the locking pip will leave nice tears in it

By the was if you happen to have the user manual for the Mohawk I'd be grateful if you'd please scan it and e.mail me it, I can't get hold of the damn thing anywhere.

Regards

My Mohawk's pictured on the Collectable Airguns thread, I cock mine the way you describe, too much like hard work for me though! Sorry no hand book will try to get one! Have a few insider contacts even though titan has gone