Curious : Does anyone use or has used a single stroke pneumatic for target shooting?

[Greylag]

Hello All,

My questions are more out of curiosity than anything else.

Does anyone use or has anyone used a single stroke pneumatic air rifle for competition target shooting? If so how did it compare to springers/pcps?

I'm talking the likes of the Titan Mohawk (which I have) Parker Hale Dragon, Daystate Sportsman etc.

Thanks in advance
Regards

[dvd]

It is a Diana 100. It is one of the last SSP's designed, before the PCP's took over the 10m scene.
I do not think they are manufactured any more because they are not listed anywhere.
Best thing I like about it is the scope rail and bolt action. Good piece of kit for long range(20m) plinking at small targets.
Still phutting along nicely after many years service. Nothing ever broke on it.
It is up there with the best of them in my opinion.

just re read your original post, I think it is in a different league from the guns you mentioned (Titan etc).It is a full blown 10m gun.
The one thing it has in common is that it is a Single Stroke Pneumatic, but all comparisons stop there. I use it for informal shooting and don't compete with it.

[Greylag]

Hello DVD,


I think that the Daystate Sportsman and the Titan Mohawk are bolt action as well, don't know about the Parker Hale Dragon.

I've never done competition shooting or handle competition guns can you tell me please in what respect do you mean it's "in a different league"? are you referring to power, accuracy or some other difference?

Thanks in advance
Regards

[Garvin]

I could be wrong but I think the guns you mentioned are all near legal limit SSPs (and are multipurpose, ie. can be used for hunting?) and the Diana 100 is strictly a 10m rifle similar to the FWB 600 series. Very impressive rifle the 100, especially the improved second model with the stainless steel cylinder.

[Greylag]

Hello Garvin,

I use the Titan Mohawk for hunting personally. I assume the Diana 100 is "tuned down" so as to be as smooth as possible for what I assume is 10m Precision target shooting.

Thanks for the replies all.

Regards

[Garvin]

Hello Garvin,

I use the Titan Mohawk for hunting personally. I assume the Diana 100 is "tuned down" so as to be as smooth as possible for what I assume is 10m Precision target shooting.

Thanks for the replies all.

Regards

Hi bud. Yes, I think the Diana was only ever made to produce between 6 and 7 ft/lbs, like the other 10m match SSPs.

I read somewhere that around 600fps with a match pellet was found to be the optimum velocity for ultimate accuracy at 10m.

I'd be interested to know what sort of tests were run to arrive at this figure and if there's a similar 'optimum velocity' for guns running at higher muzzle energy.

[Eagleman]

Hello DVD,
I think that the Daystate Sportsman and the Titan Mohawk are bolt action as well, don't know about the Parker Hale Dragon.

Dave, the Parker Hale Dragon isn't a bolt as such - it is a probe which has a screw knob on the end. Half a turn releases it and you draw back as per a bolt. In effect, the design is like a bolt without being one if you see what I mean?

I had a Dragon in .22 but the seals had gone and I ended up selling it (on that basis). Dragon's in .177 were made but not many and they tend to fetch premium prices as they should - fine guns. I would think that they would be quite usable for competitions.

Alan

[Greylag]

Dave, the Parker Hale Dragon isn't a bolt as such - it is a probe which has a screw knob on the end. Half a turn releases it and you draw back as per a bolt. In effect, the design is like a bolt without being one if you see what I mean?

I had a Dragon in .22 but the seals had gone and I ended up selling it (on that basis). Dragon's in .177 were made but not many and they tend to fetch premium prices as they should - fine guns. I would think that they would be quite usable for competitions.

Alan

Hello Alan,

Thanks for the information mate. I didn't load the PH Dragon I handled but fired it off after cocking it. Very quiet and obviously no recoil.

I'm really enjoying using the Titan Mohawk. I've started setting up for the scaly tails at around 25 yards now as they're getting a bit wiser and the accuracy of the Mohawk is spot on (wish I could say the same for me ) mind I don't miss that many

Regards

[dvd]

Hello DVD,


I think that the Daystate Sportsman and the Titan Mohawk are bolt action as well, don't know about the Parker Hale Dragon.

I've never done competition shooting or handle competition guns can you tell me please in what respect do you mean it's "in a different league"? are you referring to power, accuracy or some other difference?

Thanks in advance
Regards

Hi Greylag,
what I meant was that it was designed just to compete in official 10m matches, meaning that apart from being designed to be accurate above all else, it had to be achieved within certain parameters, such as weight, trigger pull, calibre, power, accessory rail on the forearm, adjustable muzzle weights, adjustable stock, excellent peep sight with interchangeable front inserts, etc .
Price wise, it cost a lot more new, than those mentioned, too.
I know it is very accurate, but can not compare directly its accuracy to the other guns mentioned, since I've never handled them.
To give you an idea, my Diana 100 has a Di Vel of just 4fps over 10 shots using H&N Finale Hi Speed pellets, at an average of 607 fps.
Trigger is first class and its pull weight is adjustable between around 50 and 250 grammes.
The actions of the Diana 100 (later versions) were made from stainless steel, thereby eliminating rust and a lot of condensation problems in the compression tube.
The other guns mentioned in the original post,AFAIK, were designed for field and informal target shooting, with the main similarity being the power-plant but with more emphasis on power.I'm sure they were accurate enough for the purpose for which they were designed.
HTH.

[Greylag]

Hello DVD,

Thanks for the explaination. I've got some very interesting insights into Target rifles/pellets/methods from replies to this thread.

Regards