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    Hi Geylag,
    Glad I've said something of interest..at last!

    I've not done a great deal of testing with .22 air but have done some & found in general very good batch's of .22 tend to be rather more common "off the shelf" than .177

    I know that altering average velocity just 20/30fps from one test to another has little or no affect on group size if all other things are equal.Over & above that other variables come into play, but it's fair to say from my own experience, at 50m indoors it is possible for a 30ftlb .22 air rifle to consitantly produce 10 shot groups of sub 1" with the correct batch of pellet. Shooting any further than that well lets say do I think sub 1" groups consistantly possible at 100ydsErrrrrrrrrrrrm NO! On occasions perhaps! People do win the lottery!

    I have done a fair amount with .177 sporting pcp's & Ft.guns. I once tested a BSA Hornet std rifle indoors at 45yds from a test rig with a batch of Webley Lazerdome, it consistantly shot 10 shots in a group o/d of sub 10mm using a mylar overlay, now I call that impressive! but it was average to rubbish with FTT, Lazerpell, Crossman to name a few, nothing wrong with the other makes just not as good as in this rifle, another Hornet would have produced differing results no doubt! & I might add, I believe this performance to be considered exceptional, not the norm at this range! Don't forget I'm not talking C-C

    My FWB P70 converted from 10m to 11.5ftlb, would shoot 10mm dia 10 shot groups at the same range with some batch's of JSB, & Lazerdome,

    My steyr LG100 was a "nightmare" it was hopeless even at 6yd with most stuff except RWS Superdome of all things, a pellet that only ever proved to be average in all my other tests, but still very good. Some pellets were that bad I was getting 2 or 3 shots keyhole at 10m, I converted it to shoot FT at 11.5ftlb problem went away, I couldn't be bothered to try & find out why probaly not put together right! never liked the gun anyway!

    The test rig used would not, nor was designed, to test break barrel guns, so I don't have any information to share on that.I have no reason to believe a good quality well tuned BB would not shoot as well as a quality PCP.
    I did do a little testing using the same method Eley & Anschutz use. ie clamp the barrell, but I've never been convinced by this method, it seems too crude to me, but thats just my opinion!

    I did alot of rimfire tests too with Anshutz, Walther, Krico, Diana plus a few sporting rifles & you would not believe how poor some of even the best quality ammo grouped, like 7 out of 10 seperate holes at 50m ouch!!
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    Apologies

    Hello Wonky,

    Apologies for mixing yourself and Big Al up. I was thinking the person who tested the pellets was Big Al.

    Interesting information from all none the less. I'm pleased to see that the .22 pellets don't seem to need as much sorting as the .177, saves me a lot of hassle

    I only use the Titan Mohawk for hunting and it is very accurate with 5.51mm AA fields straight off the shelf, as I said I check the zero each time out just to be sure.

    Thanks again all for the information, most helpful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greylag View Post
    Hello Wonky,

    Apologies for mixing yourself and Big Al up. I was thinking the person who tested the pellets was Big Al.

    Interesting information from all none the less. I'm pleased to see that the .22 pellets don't seem to need as much sorting as the .177, saves me a lot of hassle

    I only use the Titan Mohawk for hunting and it is very accurate with 5.51mm AA fields straight off the shelf, as I said I check the zero each time out just to be sure.

    Thanks again all for the information, most helpful.
    Regards
    Hi Greylag,

    I've just aquired a Titan Mohawk with walnut thumbhole stock in .177 today, May be interesting to "put it through it's pace's" to see what it can do! Must say though, hard to cock the thing even if you have "the knack" I don't think I'd want to play with it too long! I don't intend to keep it anway, nice looking gun but too much like hard work for me It would have been a nice addition to my collection if I hadn't got a mint working Titan JB1!
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    Quote Originally Posted by wonky donky View Post
    Hi Greylag,

    I've just aquired a Titan Mohawk with walnut thumbhole stock in .177 today, May be interesting to "put it through it's pace's" to see what it can do! Must say though, hard to cock the thing even if you have "the knack" I don't think I'd want to play with it too long! I don't intend to keep it anway, nice looking gun but too much like hard work for me It would have been a nice addition to my collection if I hadn't got a mint working Titan JB1!
    Hello Wonky,

    Did you have to tell me it had a walnut thumbnhole stock ? mine has an ordinary standard stock. I found if you hold the cocking lever halfway down when you start to close it it's easier, then slide your hand down to the rubber grip as you get to the last few inches where the extra pressure is need to close it. Keep your shirt out of the way if it's loose fitting or the locking pip will leave nice tears in it

    By the was if you happen to have the user manual for the Mohawk I'd be grateful if you'd please scan it and e.mail me it, I can't get hold of the damn thing anywhere.

    Regards
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greylag View Post
    Hello Wonky,

    Did you have to tell me it had a walnut thumbnhole stock ? mine has an ordinary standard stock. I found if you hold the cocking lever halfway down when you start to close it it's easier, then slide your hand down to the rubber grip as you get to the last few inches where the extra pressure is need to close it. Keep your shirt out of the way if it's loose fitting or the locking pip will leave nice tears in it

    By the was if you happen to have the user manual for the Mohawk I'd be grateful if you'd please scan it and e.mail me it, I can't get hold of the damn thing anywhere.

    Regards
    My Mohawk's pictured on the Collectable Airguns thread, I cock mine the way you describe, too much like hard work for me though! Sorry no hand book will try to get one! Have a few insider contacts even though titan has gone
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    Quote Originally Posted by wonky donky View Post
    My Mohawk's pictured on the Collectable Airguns thread, I cock mine the way you describe, too much like hard work for me though! Sorry no hand book will try to get one! Have a few insider contacts even though titan has gone
    Hello Wonky,

    I looked at the Collectable pictures. Your Titan Mohawk looks extremely nice in the pictures. I'd probably be frightened to use it in case I scratched it

    Another question - have you ever shot the Titan Mohawk much and if so did you feel the thumbhole stock would have made it easier to use than a standard stock?

    Regards
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greylag View Post
    Hello Wonky,

    I looked at the Collectable pictures. Your Titan Mohawk looks extremely nice in the pictures. I'd probably be frightened to use it in case I scratched it

    Another question - have you ever shot the Titan Mohawk much and if so did you feel the thumbhole stock would have made it easier to use than a standard stock?

    Regards
    No only put two or three shots through the Mohawk to make sure it's ok! I'm not a lover of thumbhole stocks so anything I'm going to say would be unfair & biased so I'll keep my mouth shut.On second thoughts....... The one on this gun tends to lead you to shoot with your elbow up, which in turn helps the shoulder contact & give a nice amount pressure between the right hand & shoulder, in turn helping stability with standing shots, having a adjustable butt plate helps too! Still not for me though!
    All the best mate.
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