Most Tastiest Recoilless Match Springer

[wobbly45]

I had a FWB 300 in 1981. You get a family and tend to move things on (sob, sob!). After quite a long break i just HAD to get another, ended up up getting one from Free Ads. (what has happened to Free Ads?). I paid £170 for it which was fine by me. The cocking action on a FWB 300? Well i would describe as easy and smooth.

[Garvin]

I had a FWB 300 in 1981. You get a family and tend to move things on (sob, sob!). After quite a long break i just HAD to get another, ended up up getting one from Free Ads. (what has happened to Free Ads?). I paid £170 for it which was fine by me. The cocking action on a FWB 300? Well i would describe as easy and smooth.

A lot of people who have one and get rid of it sooner or later get hit with a powerful urge to find another one.

[Mike95]

The LG380 certainly looks like a 300S clone. Does it have the same sled system as the 300S or does it use the Anschutz hydraulic system?

I would add my admiration of the 300S and in particular the "Junior" which I find easier to shoot, being less front heavy. I recently sold one of my older 300S Match models to a fellow club member and he cannot put it down!

Mike95

[Garvin]

The LG380 certainly looks like a 300S clone. Does it have the same sled system as the 300S or does it use the Anschutz hydraulic system?

I would add my admiration of the 300S and in particular the "Junior" which I find easier to shoot, being less front heavy. I recently sold one of my older 300S Match models to a fellow club member and he cannot put it down!

Mike95

The LG380 has a sled system like the 300S but it's concealed within the barrel shroud and the cylinder. Some cutaway pics HERE, HERE, HERE and HERE.

All you can see when it fires is the compression cylinder at the breech move backwards, unless you're looking from the target end, where you can see the barrel move back into the shroud.

[Mike95]

Thank you for that info. Not as interesting as watching the sled slide backwards! I have had queues watching the 300S from behind the shooting position and asking me if I knew the action was moving in the stock!!

Mike95

[dvd]

Anything with one piston is bound to recoil, what the shooter feels is another thing. A sliding action is a simple yet highly effective aid to accuracy.
I love the mechanical solutions that the top airgun makers came up with to get over the problems of recoil and low velocity.
In the case of two piston air guns, that's where the really clever stuff starts to shine.They are the true recoilless springers.
In my opinion, two opposing pistons canceling each other out, takes the top prize for mechanical brilliance in recoilless springers.

[Garvin]

Thank you for that info. Not as interesting as watching the sled slide backwards! I have had queues watching the 300S from behind the shooting position and asking me if I knew the action was moving in the stock!!

Mike95

To prove your point Mike: see HERE (video of LG380 firing)

Agree with dvd, only the opposing piston match guns are truly recoilless and flat to shoot. Not only was it genius to invent this system but, at least with the Dianas, they managed to make the production cost low too. It's often said that Diana lost the marketing battle against FWB and also delays with getting the sidelever 75 to market cost them dear.

[Pagoda113]

There are two Original 75 Giss system 10m rifles in fairly regular use at Dukinfield and they shoot groups comparable with all the others. DM80 on this forum can sort out new seals and servicing for these.