I seem to remember Harry was claiming sub 1" groups at 150 yards, not 100.
I seem to remember Harry was claiming sub 1" groups at 150 yards, not 100.
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but you can't really compare a 18ft.lbs to a 27ft.lbs, big difference.
I think there was some confusion over what was printed in the magazine and what Harry was actually claiming. He said that he was getting 1.2" groups at 150 yards.I seem to remember Harry was claiming sub 1" groups at 150 yards, not 100
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No Geoff.
What Harry was banned for was repeatedly posting that he regularly shoots foxes with airguns. He has also been seen slagging this forum off on other forums.
After I edited the first offending post to remove the reference - and him agreeing not to mention it again - he went and posted it at least once more. And not just in passing, either, he seemed to be enjoy posting about it.
150 yard paper targets are fine, but foxes at any range with an airgun does nothing for our sport over here in the U.K., even if it is fine down-under.
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Pete.
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As Pete said "Harry" thought he was beyond the rules even though admin were lenient in explaining to him about Foxes and airguns, others have had permanent bans for it with no second chance
Plus he has been enjoying slagging this forum (I am told) so why would he want to get back on here anyway
I have shot 8 pellets (magful of Bismags in a Career) into a pepsi bottle cap at a measured 100yds, rifle was set at 47ftlb, this was off Landrover bonnet and no noticeable wind (in a valley) I only did it once but it was quite easy to be honest, as Terry has said I would expect consistent similar results would be hard to do, I tried it on paper at same range at another time when it was a bit windy and I got around a 6 inch group
27ftlb out to 150yds, I know I couldnt shoot consistent 1.2 inch groups, I can shoot under an inch with my 22/250 but thats a different ballgame with 50grn "pellet" at 3800fps
Not being picky here (yes I am) why isn't this thread in the airgun related section?
For the life of me, advancing towards the portals of senility by the way, what use is long distance air rifle shooting?
Half the enjoyment is getting as close to the quarry as you can before taking it out quickly and efficiently.
I once got within 15 yards of a dustbin before the bluddy bin men came and emptied it.
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It is in the airgun section
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But again let me stress, I do not disbelieve anybody who says that they have done this. I call anybody a liar who says they can go out, feel the wind, judge it, and put 5 shots into a 1" circle at 150 yards with certainty.
Harry played the game, but then his "embellishment" went OTT with the claims of "never missing" etc.
Sadly, once caught out as a blatant fantasist every other claim is then brought into question.
Just another lonely old josser with too much time on his hands sadly IMHO
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Hi Ben,
It's just Kenny's written English and C- in composition
The ply board was not behind the drinks cans. I filled the drinks cans with river water and placed them on top of the boards. The pellets passed cleanly through the cans. The pellets also passed cleanly through the ply to which the paper targets were attached. Not both together.
David.
I agree with you to an extent Kenny, I'm embarrassed at the way Harry was treated on this the premier British forum. It makes us look like a bunch of kids.
His post was badly edited to remove the word "Fox", which changed it's meaning. Gary then jumped on the new meaning, ignoring people who posted that the original text had been edited, and when Harry posted the F word again, to explain what had been edited out, he was banned.
Kenny
I have to say that I understood exactly what you meant with regards to the can and the 1/4 inch ply. Having also enjoyed a number of HFT events at Juniper Green where the rifles were all chrono'd (all happily passing below 12fp) I must say that I agree with your view of posts that suggest otherwise.
If it was not for the fact that the competitions that you help run, at Juniper Green I would not have managed to get 2 people back into airgunning and they have both comented on the well run, safe setup and responsible shooters.
Like you say this is meant to be about enjoying our sport and sharing ideas, information and supporting one another.
Also it is rather amazing the number of 100 yard ... long range fun that we have all been enoying since a certain someone started a certain post.
Cheers
Euan
Keep up the good work in Scotland as we all need to stick together