Me included
Ballie I'm glad your happy with the scope (how could you not have been ) I was worried about convincing someone to spend so much money on a scope without seeing one, even though I did
If someone doesn't want any extra aim points on a scope then I think the 60 ret is perfect, I've used mine at dawn, dusk, under the lamp and with a nv add-on, all perfect
Oh and during the day