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    Help with my Hw80 (it seems a little different internally? )

    Hi

    I have a Hw80 .22 that needed a re-lube.

    So i stripped it down.

    The Spring guide is fixed to the back block, I've not seen this before and it is different to the chambers drawing and stripdown guides that i have found .

    Also the piston seal is Black and the spring has a metal top hat ?

    Everything else looks normal?

    It does have a VENOM sticker on top of the cylinder. (not sure if the sticker

    Could this be some work by Venom or is it just standard or after market ?

    Any info on this would be great.

    Thanks in Advance

    Rob.

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    At one time (maybe still so?) Venom fixed the guide to endblock, so, yes, probably had a basic tune at some point.

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    Hi,


    Post up some pics (including the piston), but it sounds like an in house venom tune.

    should be a really nice shooter if in good condition

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    Hi POK!
    Thanks for the speedy reply.

    Thats good and interesting news

    Atb
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    I'll get some pics sorted tomorrow. (if i can find out how to post them in this section?)

    I haven't had a good shoot with it yet (only got it today),

    The couple of shots i fired seemed ok.

    The serial is: 1069720 (think its a early one)

    Condition isn't the best but should clean up nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robmc View Post
    The serial is: 1069720 (think its a early one)
    1987. So an early MkII , the new model being introduced in 1986 I believe.

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    I have owned an HW80 with exactly the setup you have described. Very nice it was too.
    I think John Bowkett used a similar method to attach the spring guide to the end.
    'It may be that your sole purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others'.

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    Hi Lads

    Thanks for the replys

    Pics now added

    So its a mk2 1987

    Its seems a good idea with the spring guide (Don't know Hw don't do it as standard)

    I think the piston is standard?, just seems to be the spring guide.

    Thanks
    Rob.

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    Pics confirm it's an early Venom configuration, a good lube and it should work fine, if any parts needed due to wear, ring S Pope for advice.

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    Thanks Steve
    It all looks ok internally, I might get it re-blued though.

    Just checked your pics (I'm jealous )
    What a Collection!

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    Quote Originally Posted by steveggg View Post
    Pics confirm it's an early Venom configuration, a good lube and it should work fine, if any parts needed due to wear, ring S Pope for advice.
    Hi Steve

    That design of spring guide was also used by Bowkett and Mike Wade, and I think it was also used by Airmasters ?



    All the best Mick

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    Quote Originally Posted by T 20 View Post
    Hi Steve

    That design of spring guide was also used by Bowkett and Mike Wade, and I think it was also used by Airmasters ?



    All the best Mick
    The Special 80 I had on here for a few days before withdrawing it this morning had similar internals but the piston was slightly shortened and had a circumferential groove and a slightly shorter piston rod than usual so a longer stroke - why, I don't know! It was also fitted with the green Venom/V-Mach seal and microgroove barrel which may be a Harper unit. It was shooting quite nicely when I got it but the ME was down at 10.4 ft.lbs, the consistency not to my liking at 7.8fps pk-pk and had rather more recoil than I like so I gave it my treatment and it now has a consistency of 4.9 fps pk-pk at 11.1 ft.lbs (my target). It doesn't have a Venom sticker but that could have disappeared over the years so it's heritage may rest elsewhere but it is in very good condition and shoots very well now. Serial number is 1066781 so a very similar vintage to yours, 1987 I believe.

    Always nice to turn up these odd ones!

    Enjoy your piece of history!

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    David
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    Hi David,
    Not sure if it is work of Venom then now?
    If i get it re-blued then the Venom sticker will have to come off
    Anyway its a nice little 80 that someone has done a bit of magic on,Its a bonus as i thought it was standard .
    Atb
    Rob.

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    interesting tread ive got hold of a hw80 in tatty condition got it in a swap for another rifle and some cash mine had a venom sticker on the moderator just like that one i
    pulled it off when cleaning it up not thinking anything of it is there any other way to
    tell if it is a venom tuned one or would i have to strip it down to find out also can any one give me date of how old it is serial no is 942880 stamped on the barrel.
    cheers Alun
    Weihrauch HW77 MK1 .22 / Weihrauch HW80 MK1 .22 / BSA Airsporter MK1 .177/ Webely MK3 .22 / Diana Mod 27 .22 / SMK QB78DL .22 / Webley nemesis .177

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedthing View Post
    can any one give me date of how old it is serial no is 942880 stamped on the barrel.
    cheers Alun
    1983 Alun


    ATB Mick

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