bp gun licence q.

[wildoliver]

Quick question, I've got a sgc, and have recently been looking at getting an obsolete caliber gun as a collectible, but with an eventual aim to probably get it put on firearms certificate and shoot it.

How does the law stand on BP guns? Are these classed as obsolete? I.E. can I have one off ticket as long as I don't shoot it?

[RichardH]

Original BP guns are normally considered obselete, reproductions are considered Section 1

HTH

Richard

[robinghewitt]

All muzzle loaders made before 1939 are classed as obsolete calibre along with pre-1939 pieces chambered for cartridges on the police obsolete calibre list. A handy loophole in the law that lets people like me buy 'out of proof' antiques then register and shoot them.

You could buy an unsullied Smith and Wesson in .44 Russian and keep it as curiosity or ornament. Very pretty but you'd never get it put on a FAC and live cartridges would be a big no no

[wildoliver]

Ok well looking at that then probably a muzzle loading rifle of some kind, I've always had an interest in musket type weapons, what can I buy for a reasonable price (under about £400) that will be shootable eventually but is ok to buy now, don't mind something out of proof that I have to resubmit, and don't mind doing little jobs on it, but want something essentially sound.

Also to take the pistol in question, S+W .44 again smalish budget of about £300what sort of things are available, don't mind BP revolver, or obsolete caliber cartridge guns. A semi auto would be lovely but I suspect very few are on the obsolete list and those that are are probably expensive, what about derringers/pepperpots? Or failing that what revolvers for smallish budgets?

[Smokeless Coal]

What do you term a BP gun? Cartridge would have to be sec 7 but m/l revolvers are sec 1.

You can have a smooth bore m/l shotgun on your SGC even firing single shot.

If you want an obsolete calibre you can have it as an antique if you want to fire it you would have to have it under sec 7.3. It would have to be stored at a club passed to cater for them such as Bisley and I dont think there are allowed to be any non sec 7.3 licensed persons at the range while you shoot.

[wildoliver]

To me BP is a gun that doesn't use a cartridge that you just load and dispose of once fired, probably totally incorrect but that's the sort of thing I'm after.

Not really sure I'm bothered about a muzzle loading shotgun, to be honest I think I could get pretty bored pretty quick, but something capable of firing solid shot, thats muzzle loaded, uses black powder and preferably a ball.

Of course it might just sit in the gun cabinet as an antique and never get put on ticket or fired! but it would be lovely to have.

What kind of budget and where do I look?