200yards

[lionel]

I'm proud to say that I have shot a stone - roughly the size of a brick - at a lasered and witnessed range of 301 yards with an air rifle. The first couple of shots missed, but kicked up dust in the muddy field, so I could see how to adjust the aim. Once I'd worked out the aim I managed to hit it two or three times in a row before some close misses. The rifle was a regulated prototype, set to 60 fpe and firing Eley Magnums.

Lionel

[Rapidnick]

I'm proud to say that I have shot a stone - roughly the size of a brick - at a lasered and witnessed range of 301 yards with an air rifle. The first couple of shots missed, but kicked up dust in the muddy field, so I could see how to adjust the aim. Once I'd worked out the aim I managed to hit it two or three times in a row before some close misses. The rifle was a regulated prototype, set to 60 fpe and firing Eley Magnums.

Lionel

Yah boo we don't believe YOOOOOOO! Are you sure the witness didn't have a white stick and a labrador with him?
Go on admit it! You were using a 17HMR bipod rested and in perfect weather!!

[reptile69]

i belive you mate. if i talked about the ranges i shoot, people would be outraged jealous etc. also it gets me when people talk about long range shootin with HMR and CF'S and folks are like yeah thats fine thats ok but when someone asks for example whats your max range hmr they say 200m max but we all know what they can out too silly ranges and folks dont say anything like thats bull#### so whats the big deal with air rifles shooting at long distance's

[Gary C]

i belive you mate. if i talked about the ranges i shoot, people would be outraged jealous etc.

Go on..make my day

[grogblossom]

used to shoot to 22000 yrds oh yeh that was a 4.5"

[reptile69]

Go on..make my day

if i told a smart arse like you, you would give up shooting

[Gary C]

if i told a smart arse like you, you would give up shooting

He he

Everybody can talk the talk...

Talks cheap but bull#### costs
Here's the deal.
You make your claim
I call you on it
We have a bet - you prove it in front of witnesses and I pay you.
So.. make your play or just carry on playing with yourself. Put up or shut up.


oops
Sorry bud. I didn't realise you are a harmless fantasist - off to live in USA, conviction for assault, owner of several firearms. Dream on mate. Dream on

[baz]

I have done some filming similar to that but not using air rifles, I will bet that isnt 200yds, it will look like it through a camera being zoomed in and out but a 410E pellet wouldnt get to 200yds in that short a time no way

I would say thats 100yds and once he had looked at his video he realised it could look 200yds, the time from ping to plop is way too quick to be 200yds and the amount of dust kicked up also shows its

I would hazard a guess that the projectile would have to leave muzzle in excess of 1500fps if that was 200yds and theres no supersonic crack

Now 34ftlb from a S410E and a JSB Exact would be about 970fps which would be just about right for 100yds and wouldn have a SS crack

Its BS

[Ka-Boom!]

Yah boo we don't believe YOOOOOOO! Are you sure the witness didn't have a white stick and a labrador with him?
Go on admit it! You were using a 17HMR bipod rested and in perfect weather!!

I realise that you're pulling his leg Nick, but I KNOW Lionel is telling the truth as I've hit that same 300 yard stone too with that (Ian Collins' own) rifle shooting from his back garden across the adjacent field in Bedfordshire.
Yes, it was like hurling mortars (or more precisely, 22LR subs), but it was surprisingly, no, amazingly accurate. I would not have thought it possible for an air rifle, albeit a rather extreme one, to perform like that had I not actually seen it for myself.

Incidentally, the previous poster is correct in his assertion that the speed of sound in air is only linked to temperature.
IIRC, the equation to calculate is:

38.94*Root K = Speed of sound in Kts

Where K = temp in Kelvin.

[baz]

I am sure I read somewhere its to do with altitude and density, however that isnt my particular "thing" I prefer ballistics, and I dont shoot from mountains anyway

[baz]

The discussion I am interested in is the one about a S410E shooting bottles at 200yds with no supersonic crack apparent, I just think it is closer than 200yds