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    Target Mk 2

    TARGET FILE REMOVED AND NOW IN POST #33

    OK Chaps

    Assuming Graeme's rule is the same length as mine (), it rather looks as though the ISSF are somewhat less generous than the NSRA. The single bull version attached to my earlier post had only a measly 13.8cm '2' scoring ring, compared with his measured 18cm. What's 5 cm between friends ?? !!

    Protoype v2 single bull only (1 page) target attached. Took a fair bit of tweaking, but trial print runs now has this checking out at a perfect 18cm.

    WIll attempt to re-do a 4-bull single sheet edition, but will have to be restricted to the '6' ring at best. Prob won't be able to sort this much before end of the week. So you'll have to 'do' with using more sheets of paper 'til then.

    Graeme .... Be grateful if you'd print this off and OK it, or advise if any further adjustments needed.

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    A 6 Yard Version (2 bull)

    << TARGET FILE REMOVED AND RELAUNCHED AT POST #33 >>

    Bit pre-emptive, but if my ruler was the right length for the Mk 2 10 metre target in last post, then attached is a 2 bull version for use at 6 YARDS.

    The 2 ring on this measures 97mm i.e. 53.9% of the 10M version. That's what my calculator told me was the difference between 10M and 6 yards.

    For me, this is perfect for the living room, without having to encroach on the kitchen and increase risk of clipping door frame on the way through

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    Im interested in joining the competition but never competed in any shooting discipline before so a couple of questions, please bear with my ignorance.

    Distance of 6m/10m. Where is that dimension taken from/to? Its fairly obvious the face of the target is fixed but is it to the toes or the muzzle of the pistol?

    I will be using a .177 HW45, does that mean someone using a .22 has an advantage because the size of the holes in the target are bigger?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy G View Post
    Im interested in joining the competition but never competed in any shooting discipline before so a couple of questions, please bear with my ignorance.

    Distance of 6m/10m. Where is that dimension taken from/to? Its fairly obvious the face of the target is fixed but is it to the toes or the muzzle of the pistol?

    I will be using a .177 HW45, does that mean someone using a .22 has an advantage because the size of the holes in the target are bigger?

    Roy
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    From the toes

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    If you look at this link you will see printable targets of the correct size, both 10m and reduced distance,

    Lower left corner

    http://www.airguninfo.com/46index.shtml

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy G View Post
    Im interested in joining the competition but never competed in any shooting discipline before so a couple of questions, please bear with my ignorance.

    Distance of 6m/10m. Where is that dimension taken from/to? Its fairly obvious the face of the target is fixed but is it to the toes or the muzzle of the pistol?

    I will be using a .177 HW45, does that mean someone using a .22 has an advantage because the size of the holes in the target are bigger?

    Roy
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    Hi Roy
    The distances are 10 metres and 6yards (not 6metres)
    This distance is from the face of the target to a firing line behind which you keep both feet The disciplines are shot unsupported (by that I mean no part of the body can touch a table or bench etc)

    It also goes without saying that it must be shot one-handed

    The disciplines are shot using .177 only (.22 are not used at these 2 distances)

    The HW45 that you intend to use is very accurate over these ranges(and beyond) and I have seen 1 hole groups shot with them at 10 metres - no pressure.

    In air rifle disciplines that allow .22 guns, all shots close to a scoring ring are probed using a .22 probe and not .177 to keep a level playing field eg Short Range Sport Rifle (shot at 20 yards)
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    Quote Originally Posted by pennineway.fswo View Post
    Hi Roy
    The distances are 10 metres and 6yards (not 6metres)
    This distance is from the face of the target to a firing line behind which you keep both feet The disciplines are shot unsupported (by that I mean no part of the body can touch a table or bench etc)

    It also goes without saying that it must be shot one-handed

    The disciplines are shot using .177 only (.22 are not used at these 2 distances)

    The HW45 that you intend to use is very accurate over these ranges(and beyond) and I have seen 1 hole groups shot with them at 10 metres - no pressure.

    In air rifle disciplines that allow .22 guns, all shots close to a scoring ring are probed using a .22 probe and not .177 to keep a level playing field eg Short Range Sport Rifle (shot at 20 yards)
    Regards
    John
    As you say no pressure and taking into account my recent attempts I have a LOT to learn and from your comments about the HW45 I cant even blame the pistol

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    I currently using Crossman Match Pell through my HW45.
    Is this the 'recommended' pellet for my pistol?


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    Right, major apologies due to all. I think I have been at the Bacardi again, ignore all my comments on target sizes, measurments etc. It would really help matters if I actually measured a 10m pistol taget instead of a rifle taget for 20 yards!!!!!!.
    I had a taget in front of me that I had ripped off the corner to make a note on, and without putting my brain into gear have been measuring that one.

    Biggles, I am so sorry for the run around on this.
    Everyone else, listenn to John (pennineway.fswo) who has a lot more knowledge and common sense than I do.

    Once the target isssue is sorted I am confident that I can look after the score collation though!
    Bugger I am so annoyed at myself it's unbelivable!

    First scores from Derek now on the website. Thank you.
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    How to post scores?

    Do we just post our scores here?

    I shot this morning, used the "6 yard" target: my score was: 24, 23, 29, 26, = 102 / 200.

    I used a Beeman P3 .177 pistol, H&N wadcutter pellets, one handed, open sights.

    Not good, but on par for me.

    Jim
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    yes Jim, then I update the website www.shireshop.co.uk , link at bottom right of that page when you get there.

    Are these your submissions for December?
    cheers
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    Yes

    Yes, Polly, December's our first month for the competition, right?

    Jim
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    Ok Graeme just managed to shoot my December card at 6 yds.
    Card A 37
    Card B 35
    Card C 29
    Card D 32

    Total 133/200

    Roy
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    January scores

    Polly, here are my January scores (slightly worse than my December scores: Happy New Year! )

    19, 34, 25, 22 = 100 / 200

    Jim
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim McArthur View Post
    Polly, here are my January scores (slightly worse than my December scores: Happy New Year! )

    19, 34, 25, 22 = 100 / 200

    Jim
    Cheers Jim, scores updated, Have a good 2008
    regards
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