Another pistol competition

[MattW]

For anyone with faulty O-rings on their FAS604
Hopefully there should be some pics attached that will be useful for O-ring replacement

and

Thanks for reply Graeme (re. more than 1 pistol)
john

Only just seen your replies John - many thanks.

I took the pistol apart tonight and the piston head o-ring is completely trashed (comforting that it was so obvious!) - more on this post:
http://www.airgunbbs.com/forums/show...7&postcount=10

I'd already ordered a seal kit when I saw your post (had a feeling that the o-rings would be standard parts, but the kit was only £16 from BAR, so not too bad). As you say, I'll sort out some spares from an engineering supplier to keep for the future!

thanks again

Matt

[biggles]

Interesting. BAR = £16 v's Surrey Guns = £39. Similar story for other items too as I see they advertise the airgunners favourite chrono - the Combro Mk4 at £79. Don't imagine they sell too many of these items

I know they're a specialist shop, with access to every Gehmann item under the sun, but that's a tad steep in anyone's language.

Just shows how important it is to shop around.

[pennineway.fswo]

Graeme
These are Pete's and my scores using springers for round 1

Pete - HW45
34/32/33/36 =135

John - Walther LP53
36/41/40/39 = 156

Matt/Biggles
Thanks for info on BAR. Yet another FAS604 came into the club this week and needs new seals. I changed the piston and breech seals which improved matters, but it wont hold the charge for long, so I guess the smaller O-rings on the exhaust v/v also need replacing

FAS606
Does anyone out there own a FAS 606
I have seen articles on this good looking single stroke pneumatic but never seen one in the metal

John

[MattW]

Matt/Biggles
Thanks for info on BAR. Yet another FAS604 came into the club this week and needs new seals. I changed the piston and breech seals which improved matters, but it wont hold the charge for long, so I guess the smaller O-rings on the exhaust v/v also need replacing

No worries
As I'm sure you know, but for the benefit of others who may read this, once you've got the gun apart, replacing the valve o-rings isn't a hard job - three o-rings - one requires dissassembly of the valve. However try not to completely remove the tiny roll pin which holds the valve assembly together (leave it located in one side of the valve head). I did knock it out completely and it looks like it's going to be a bu**er to replace

FAS606
Does anyone out there own a FAS 606
I have seen articles on this good looking single stroke pneumatic but never seen one in the metal

I've never seen one, although Mr Clevely of Checkmate Guns (FAS guru by all accounts and very helpful on the phone), did mention that while he thought the 604 a lovely gun, he considered the 606 to be a "disaster" ....

cheers
Matt

[Snooper601]

Oops, forgot to put these in

March

10 9 9 8 8 = 44
9 9 8 8 8 = 42
9 9 8 8 8 = 42
10 9 9 9 9 = 46

Total 174

Cheers

John

[pollythedog]

Up till now I have allowed a minor transgression of the rule regarding the deadline for score submission, however I feel I must now enforce that rule.
Had the scores not been so close between three of the entrants it might not have been such a tricky situation.
Whilst wanting to keep it a friendly competition it is also only fair to those that have abided by the rules.
To add further complication would be that a transgressor was up against a non transgressor in this case, but that is not the case.

Of the top two in the competition at present both, I believe, have been allowed a late score entry in the early stages. Which at this point puts both competitors on a level playing field having had the same leniency.
So I feel at this point I must disallow Snooper's score for March.
It is not an easy decision and has had me mulling it over a lot, I am not happy at having to do it. The situation being as it is though I feel it is the only fair way to do it.

Sorry Snooper,
Regards
Graeme

[Snooper601]

Up till now I have allowed a minor transgression of the rule regarding the deadline for score submission, however I feel I must now enforce that rule.
Had the scores not been so close between three of the entrants it might not have been such a tricky situation.
Whilst wanting to keep it a friendly competition it is also only fair to those that have abided by the rules.
To add further complication would be that a transgressor was up against a non transgressor in this case, but that is not the case.

Of the top two in the competition at present both, I believe, have been allowed a late score entry in the early stages. Which at this point puts both competitors on a level playing field having had the same leniency.
So I feel at this point I must disallow Snooper's score for March.
It is not an easy decision and has had me mulling it over a lot, I am not happy at having to do it. The situation being as it is though I feel it is the only fair way to do it.

Sorry Snooper,
Regards
Graeme

Scrub my total score then.

[MattW]

For what it's worth, I feel Graeme (Pollythedog) has made the right decision. Even a 'friendly' competition is still a competition and rules are rules.

With holidays and major work on the house, I've not even had chance to touch a pistol in two months. I'm gutted because I'm itching to shoot again and I was improving and wasn't doing too bad in the comp. However, I'm looking forward to seeing how it pans out and I'll accept my 'zero' scores still submit in the future just to measure myself against others.

Thanks for organising this Graeme

cheers
Matt

[Pagoda113]

Rules are rules,but as one with a "competitive" score I would not like to see anyone excluded for a minor submission error; after all this is just a bit of freindly fun with the added spice of a prize.
Let`s not get too intense about this.
OK, I`ve said my piece,John

[pollythedog]

Scrub my total score then.

Do you really want to do that?
With two rounds still to go and no one being able to predict the future, maybe other entrants will not submit a score for either of those months. It is a possibility.

Like I said I am not happy about the situation and I had even considered that the other competitors might say to let the scores stand, but unless they do so in unison then I cannot make the assumption that all would be agreed to do so.

I have learnt from the experience of running this that if I do another one the rules will need to be strictly enforced from the start, although I intend to make it a best 5 of 6 competition thus allowing a round to be missed if needed.
regards

Graeme

[Pagoda113]

What do the others with a competitive score think?

[Jim McArthur]

I have learnt from the experience of running this that if I do another one the rules will need to be strictly enforced from the start, although I intend to make it a best 5 of 6 competition thus allowing a round to be missed if needed.
regards

Graeme

This is the best way, on both counts, Graeme.

And I DO hope these comps will continue.

Jim

[Snooper601]

Do you really want to do that?
With two rounds still to go and no one being able to predict the future, maybe other entrants will not submit a score for either of those months. It is a possibility.

Like I said I am not happy about the situation and I had even considered that the other competitors might say to let the scores stand, but unless they do so in unison then I cannot make the assumption that all would be agreed to do so.

I have learnt from the experience of running this that if I do another one the rules will need to be strictly enforced from the start, although I intend to make it a best 5 of 6 competition thus allowing a round to be missed if needed.
regards

Graeme

Leave it for the moment

My problem is that I sometimes don't know what day of the week it is, let alone the date. Comes from working what they used to call 'Irregular hours' and now call 'unpredictability' for almost 30 years. I sometimes pick up the phone at work and know which truck I'm working in but can't remember where I am in the country. Imagine waking up in the middle of the night for a piss and not knowing where the bathroom is My mate did this one night and ended up having to go to reception in the hotel naked He had gone out of the hotel room into the corridor. Another did the same thing but forced the door to his room and then got booted out next morning.

Things are starting to get busy again at work so the next 2 may be difficult anyway.

Cheers

John